Youth Employment and Training Initiatives meeting (YETI)
Youth Connexions Cheshunt
Tuesday 4th June 2013 – 9.30 – 11.30am
MINUTES AND ACTIONS
Present: Youth Connexions: Alicia Anderson, Bev Ankin, Bridget Banks, Janice Ford,Lucy Coddington, Martin Webber (Chair) Mick Dempsey, Stephanie Jacobs, Sue Stevens
(Ilkay Tahir minutes)
Elizabeth Watson (HRC) David Lambert (Essex Training) Phil Pantlin (SPS Training)
Lena Brooks (Job Centre Plus) Dan Yusuf (YES)
Apologies: Rebecca Jennings (First Rung)
Daniel Guerra (Oakland College)
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ITEM / Who? / When?
1. / Welcome and introductions
§ This is first Broxbourne/East Herts YETI meeting, comprises of Youth Connexion/Job Centre Plus/Local Training Providers
§ Meeting to share good practice/reduce NEETs/come up with ideas to work together to get clients into provision/employment
2. / Good practice – How do we share good practice? How would you like to see it?
Working well:
§ JLT ( John Laing Training) using Connexions office in Ware for 1:1 pre interviews with yp and matching them to apprenticeships. Connexions staff see yp after meeting
§ Lena: Morrisons opening in Hoddesdon – huge opportunity for yp
§ HRC/JC+ apprenticeship system – profile zone, best possible chance to get yp on apprenticeship
§ ETC: Run construction workshops/activities not academic. Plumbing to Level 3
§ ETC: based in Waltham Abbey /funded training/employment courses (cv) NEETs funding 16-18/19+ private training/Pitman Secretarial/accountancy: liaise with small companies re: training
§ Lena: If signing on YP can get money to access courses
§ HRC: Progression routes to NVQ/work placement available
§ 50 yp finished CK Assessment course plumbing course – Technical Certificate not NVQ. Need to get NVQ recognised by Board
3. / Training provision with low take-up – Feedback from Youth Connexions and Job Centre Plus on young people’s needs; feedback from providers on recruitment difficulties, and actions assigned
§ Yp not sure what work really means- not motivated
§ Not good to recruit at last minute
§ Share up to date information
§ Yp people saying they will attend provision but don’t
§ Have group information sessions for yp i.e. half hour – give them option to say yes/no to course
§ Make course sound attractive and lead to cv/maths/English as part of it not whole of it
§ ETC have got courses, but need access to yp
§ MW: handed out previously emailed NEETs list and what yp is interested in for Brox/E Herts
§ Intensive NEETs want practical work – not interested in college
§ E Herts lack provision - only have A2A (HRC)/ SPS Training
§ Transport a big issue – yp reluctant to use public transport
§ Not financially viable to pick up yp and take by car each time
§ Yp live in the now – do not look at wider picture
§ Connexions refer yp to providers – yp might not go, PAs have no time to take them
§ Yp want financial reward now, not long term goals through college/training
§ ETC: have paid £50 incentive for full attendance on 4 week course – may do again in future, but payment will be lower
§ Dan (YES) Education and training, Bedford based, provide KS4/Post 16/ adult training. Running Industry challenge 10 week programme at Waltham Cross Community Project for 16+ years old. Based on Apprentice (1) 1-3 industry experts running their own business, giving talk on industry/background – client will get employment at the end (2) Take client to industry visit (not work experience) (3) set challenge related to industry area working in with budget to buy/sell for profit/package – Industry prize/voucher given. Opportunity to network people in Industry. Placements offered on Facebook page. BTEC Level 1 award gained - opportunity to study further/flexible course. 3 staff with 12 yp. Not classroom based. Staff make sure yp get there, providing transport/money. Started last week/solid group of 12. 2 teams challenge against each other – promote as much as possible. Couple doing training at JC+ Give names to Lena (JC+)
§ Do something that yp are interested in/want to do
§ SPS: Recruitment - look at promotion/advertising – jazz it up to sell course
§ Need to get people in – can book room at JC/Connexions
§ Lena: Phil/SPS did training on Universal Job Match for over 25s. If she gets funds might look at other training for yp – localised flyers
§ JC+ cannot do Tuesday for training, look at other venues available for training - Chelmsford/Waltham Abbey
§ ETC : Recruitment time an issue – best practice is 4-6 weeks leading time. David can come and do sessions with group – Industrial Morning. Good progression: lot of work out there: many yp self-employed/cash in hand
§ Lots of plumbers 55+ will be demand for plumbers in few years time
§ HRC: problem with yp saying they will go and not turn up. Look at changing training day to different venue. Good to have introduction then go to HRC, not initial contact
§ YES: looking for links into industry. ICT group: can bring group to another provider i.e. Phil/SPS
§ Clients very keen to move to other TPs if not work ready for employment – where do they go at the end?
§ Shortage in warehouse provision – HRC work based assessment but not training
§ JC+ pushing Tesco to pay for course
§ Pound land opening in Harlow
§ HRC: Will find out if there are units/funding for retail. Yp expectations too high i.e. salaries. Want young people to aspire.
§ JC+: Confidence building courses not promoted enough. Often yp have ability, but cannot deal with telephone calls/front of house/customer relations
§ Good to have employers come to next YETI meeting. Lena to action
§ Yp expectations of job – show other routes to employment/progression as part of work. Generic skills/work experience (unpaid) yp see this as difficult / DAN
PHIL
DAVID
ELIZABETH
ELIZABETH
LENA
4. / Gaps in Provision and solutions to fill the gaps
§ Logistics
§ Warehousing
§ Retail
§ Telephone training
§ Training around identity
5. / Vacancies with low take-up from Job Centre Plus, Youth Connexions and National Apprenticeship Service vacancies
§ Provision with low take up: cv/maths/English – clients do not like classroom situation
§ High Level vacancies
JC+
· Sanction people for not attending/turning up (1st time 2 weeks – 2nd time maybe 6 months benefit cessation)
§ Struggling with high level vacancies i.e. Management. Do not struggle with entry level i.e. Retail.
· Morrison’s opening in Hoddesdon end November/beginning December – 2 recruitment open days (Mon 19/Tues 20 August) hot line (for public) open up to us before public open days. 213 vacancies 23 of them Managerial (Morrison’s promote their own) Morrison’s 2 week training package before job. Vacancies ranging from 10 hrs – full-time per week. More information to follow (Lena)
· Venue for training packages – HRC: Entry Level Retail, get as many customers on list as possible
· Carers: difficult to promote. Need drivers. Not suitable for yp as in home. Could be hook/incentive to give provisional driving licence – as lots of ID issue
· Get PAs to attend providers introduction sessions to yp / LENA
ALL
6. / What are we going to do about it?
Working together to tackle issues to reduce NEET rate
· Training providers to identify how to attract yp
· HRC: less classroom/more practical. Difficult to make practical more interesting
· ETC: practical/classroom - practical not in classroom all day with them
· JT+: Take yp to Youth Club one night – good outdoors/rock climbing. Think about way to talk people round to achieving
· Give yp reality check/sweetener/make provision more attractive
· HRC: attended a school careers carousel – yp to speak to someone who had that experience, cost effective for training provider to have groups of 10 yp
· Take in group to training provider – does help
· PAs can take yp in car
· Info session by training provider i.e. at COSS or WXJC - room available for up to 20 yp) next stage if yp wants to know more take yp to training provider
· YES: Have activity used in central Beds – includes paintball/call of duty style game, interactive and generates a crowd – just need venue
· Leg work important for all Connexions/JC/Training Providers
· A2A most useful – if yp pass it they can access other L1/L2 courses
· YES: A2A model in Harlow – funding taken away. Traineeships: Stepping Stones – 6 months programme then step into employment
· E Trg: introduce maths/English discreetly without yp realising – make it relevant to what they are doing
· Connexions use twitter/facebook/text to contact yp
· Get feedback for yp if unsuccessful in interviews – to help improve for future
· Industry Mornings: PA gives overview i.e. construction course by E Trg, invite all yp divide into groups IAG etc
· Bring in employers: Morrison’s etc and AVOL/training providers for the morning. Look at dates – all invited/yp can bring parents – try and give realistic expectations of course. Lots of models used in county – Lucy can help
· Look at lists for low take up/or yp who attend and drop out
· JAF: 20 different new TPs out there – invite them in/vet them. Some TPs are not flexible with venue/interviews/training – give feedback to HRC/Elizabeth
· PAs – Induction/Employers – Industry Morning/TPs – look at programme offered and incentives offered for course / LENA/
ALL
LUCY
ALL
ALL/HRC/ ELIZABETH
ALL
7. / What else is needed?
8. / AOB
§ Training providers to send details of all training courses with dates
§ Email addresses of all TPs to be included in minutes / TPs
ILKAY
Date of next meeting
Tuesday 5th November 2013 – Hosted by Essex Training Centre in Waltham Abbey