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HUBIO ONLINE COURSE RATING SYSTEM

HuBio 540 Cardiovascular System

By Seattle YR2 Students

Autumn Quarter2008-2009

Course Chair: Dr. Eric Feigl

Date: July 20, 2009

Seattle YR2 Student Comments

N=200

Number of Respondents: 169

Response Rate: 85%

HB 540: What Advice Would You Offer To Next Year’s Students About This Course?

This class is excellent!

This is an amazing course. Enjoy the material, work hard, and you will do well.

This is one of the best organized courses so far this year!

Ask for help before exams.

Attend "cases presentation". Highlight of the course.

Attend all lectures

Attend all lectures and small groups.

Attend all small groups.

Attend every small group.

Attend lecture

Attend small groups!

Attend small groups.

Attend the path lectures!

Be ready for the class to speed up a bit after the midterm.

Book - Get the Lilly book, it is well organized, and easy to understand, I loved it. Read subject by subject to prep for class and the syllabus will be a lot easier to follow.

Book - I really liked the Lilly book, it's probably not necessary but I think it definitely complements the syllabus well. It explains many of the things that are just stated in the syllabus which I really liked.

Book - It's not necessary to read all of the Lilly, especially because it sometimes isn't exactly in agreement with the material from lecture that will be on the test.

Book - Lilly is a good resource in addition to the syllabus and ECG book.

Book - Lilly really helps understand the pathophysiology.

Book - Prep for each class by reading a VERY concise review book chapter/flash card of that day's topic. The Lilly book is outstanding, but if you're like me, you'll never manage to do both the syllabus reading AND the Lilly reading. Mohrman and Heller is excellent, much more concise, but unfortunately has far fewer readings assigned to it.

Book - Read Lilly -- it's a great text.

Book - Read Lilly's. It is a great clarification resource.

Book - Read Lily as a supplement. Lily has a good congenital heart defect section so read that too.

Book - The Lilly book is quite helpful.

Book - The Lilly book is very helpful, but the second one is not.

Book - The Lily textbook (on heart problems) is great. It really helps with the pathology parts of the course.

Book - Use Lilly when you are confused.

Book - Use the lily book.

Books - Buy the Lilly book-it is a great supplement to the syllabi. Makes sure to understand all the graphs and charts in the book.

Books - I didn't use the books much at all.

Books - Lilly is a very useful reference if you have time to read it

Books - The Lilly book and the Mohrman and Heller book are both great. Clear and useful explanations in Lilly. More concise info in M and H. Both are great if you can pre-read before class.

Books - The recommended books are helpful if you don't understand something in the syllabus.

Books - The textbooks are good, but don't worry if you don't have time to read them, if you understand the syllabus you will be fine.

Books - The textbooks were occasionally useful to clarify confusing points, but generally I didn't use them.

Do not get behind! There is too much information; you can't learn it at the last minute.

Do not get behind.

Do not go to class. It is much more efficient to read the syllabus and go over the PowerPoints on your own.

Don’t get behind - Generic advice, I know, but don't get behind.

Don't fall behind

Don't fall behind; it's a huge amount of information.

Don't get behind

Don't get behind and take advantage of all the information you learn in this course!

Don't get behind!

Drugs - Really get the medications and treatment options down for different clinical scenarios.

Drugs - Study the drugs used in treatment of heart failure!

ECG - Practice reading ECG's every day, it's not something that's crammable.

ECG - Practice the ECGs

ECG - Practice the ECGs

ECG - Regarding the ECG portion of the class-do not waste time on using resources outside of Dr. Martin's ECG syllabus (especially be aware that he doesn't like the Dubin ECG book, and it may contain information that's contradictory to what's taught in our class, and what's taught in our class is the correct information).

ECGs - Memorize the criteria on how to read ECGs as soon as possible in the course.

EKG - Make sure to read EKGs in a systematic fashion.

Enjoy it! This is fun material!

Enjoy this class. It is fun, but requires a lot of work.

Enjoy!

Enjoy! It is a fantastic course!

Enjoy!!

Equations - Know ALL the equations!!

Exams - Do old tests

Exams - Don't blow off the midterm

Exams - I put off reading material that was presented before the midterm but not tested on at that point; it probably wasn't the best decision. I ended up 100 pages behind after the midterm and it was a struggle to catch up. Even though it might take extra time before your first exam, don't skip out on material for the rest of the course.

Exams - If you want to ace the class, you'd better sweat the details - Feigl's tests are really microscopic.

Exams - Learn from the old tests.

Exams - Study old tests.

Exams - Take advance of old exams.

Exams - Take the midterm more seriously, it may determine whether you will qualify for honors or not.

Exams - Take the previous exams as they correlate pretty well with the exams you will get.

Exams - The best way to prepare for tests is to take as many old ones as you can. You will see what they like to test on and what areas are favorites for test questions.

Exams - Work hard to do well on the midterm, which focuses on physiology. The second part of the course, which focuses more on pathology, is far more information-dense. You'll want to step it up in order to do well on the final.

Exams are challenging!

Faculty - This class has fabulously interesting content and a troupe of dedicated physician instructors.

Faculty are very knowledgeable

Final - Focus on key materials for the final; don't focus on minutia but rather big picture.

Final - I thought the midterm was easier than the final -- study up for that so that you can have a cushion for the final.

Final - Study for the final as it's harder than the midterm.

Flashcards - Lange Flashcards: Pathology has REALLY concise reviews of topics that can be read to organize ones' thoughts prior to that day's lecture, but by itself of course isn't enough.

Fun - Course is a lot of fun!

Go to class

Go to class, it's very helpful on the tests.

Go to class.

Go to class. It really helps, especially when talking about mechanics.

Have fun and try to learn something.

If I could do it over again, I would probably (1) read the relevant Lange pathology flashcard before each lecture, (2) attend each and every lecture, (3) review the lecture slides later that same day, and (4) if time permits, read the relevant section in Lilly. The syllabus is too wordy and only present one perspective, and you could easily take the same amount of time JUST reading the syllabus. Whereas if you do 1-4 above, you'll get three different perspectives in probably about the same amount of time, and stay up-to-date in class.

Information is very dense and difficult, but work hard because it is worth it.

It's an interesting, but difficult class, so put in the time and it will be quite rewarding.

Keep on top of the material

Keep up

Keep up

Keep up - Do not fall behind in the material-cramming is not useful for you or for your future patients, who will need you to understand this information to keep them safe and healthy.

Keep up - Don't be lulled into a false sense of security in the first couple of weeks. The material comes fast in the second half of the course so stay up on it.

Keep up - Don't put off Cardio to study for Urinary's midterm if they match up the way they did this year.

Keep up - Great course, stay on top of the reading

Keep up - It is inevitable that you will get behind at one point or another, so just try to stay ahead when you can.

Keep up - Just stay on top of work

Keep up - Stay caught up on all of the material.

Keep up in this class especially after the 1st midterm because it goes fast.

Keep up with class

Keep up with the material. Most likely you will enjoy it so that won't be too difficult.

Keep up with the reading!

Know all the material really well!

Lab - Go to the Pathology labs! Study the chest x-rays

Learn the concepts from the first 1/2 of the class well. They form the basis for all of the pathophysiology you learn later.

Learn the physiology and basic ECGs early so that they can ground the rest of the course.

Lecture - Do not get discouraged by the first couple of lectures on mechanics. Learn them thoroughly, because you really will apply their concepts throughout the course.

Lecture - Dr. Feigl lectures are difficult to follow. Make sure you get the concepts down.

Lecture - Go to all lectures

Lecture - Go to all the lectures.

Lecture - Go to lecture and memorize the lecture slides.

Lecture - Go to lectures

Lecture - Go to the lecture on radiology and know the x-rays well. Look over the supplemental radiology slides and read through the annotations on the pathology lectures.

Lecture - Spend a lot of time with Murry's lecture because although his material is straightforward, he tests on details and there is a lot of his stuff on the final.

Lecture - The peripheral vascular lecture is long- so be ready to spend some extra time.

Lecture Most of the lectures are fantastic.

Lectures really help to visualize what you're learning about and the small groups really help to consolidate the material and the concepts.

Math - Get good at the math. Understand how it works, and don't just memorize the formulas.

Memorization- Courses can generally be sorted by the ratio of first-principal-based reasoning to rote memorization of data that they involve. This course begins very high on the first-principal-based reasoning end of the spectrum (like first-year cell physiology), but know that the amount of rote memorization increases as the course goes along. By the time the final rolls around, this course has a lot of material, and is definitely one of the more challenging of the quarter. Try hard to continue cultivating an evolving understanding of the first principals as they accumulate, because they remain the bedrock of the course.

Midterm - Study hard for the midterm. There is A LOT of material in this class and you will probably only have the weekend to study for the final. The better you prepare for the midterm the more time you will have to master the newer material.

None

Old tests are key

Practice exams - Take the practice exams. Honors is based on how well you do in comparison to the class does as a whole, not how well you do. It is still on a bell curve format.

Practice tests - Did the practice tests before the exams.

Practice tests - Do all the practice tests.

Practice tests - Take all of the practice tests and from these get a grasp of the main information that Dr. Feigl wants you to know. Practice tests are key to passing this class.

Practice tests - Take the practice midterms and finals.

Practice tests - Take the practice tests, they're very useful!

Practice, practice,practice CO equations and know all the equations backwards and forwards.

Prepare for small group before you go

Prepare for small groups ahead of time.

Quiz yourself!

Read - Do the reading and small group assignments ahead of time.

Read - Do the readings before the lecture.

Read - If you read before the lecture, things will make a lot more sense.

Read - It is very helpful to read ahead

Read - Pre-read before class

Read a day or two before class, not the morning of. It gives the material time to sink in.

Read all the texts - this will give you a broad base of the course material & will present it in a variety of ways.

Read before class

Read before class and make sure that you know what the figures mean especially for Dr. Feigl's lectures. Read Lilly, it is a good reference that clarifies concepts

Read before class AND read outside material also. Use your FIRST AID for USMLE book at the same time.

Read Lily before you try to read the syllabus. This is a challenging but great class.

Read Mohrman and Heller for clarifications

Read prior to the lectures. Don't try to read the info in the syllabus and both books. Read the syllabus and use the books to clarify topics that you find unclear.

Read the book for parts you don’t understand.

Read the book.

Read the books

Read the books and syllabi

Read the syllabus

Read the syllabus

Read the syllabus before class

Read the syllabus before each lecture

Read the syllabus.

Reading - Make sure you do your reading ahead of time on the days you do heart pathology labs so you can get a lot out of these experiences.

Really focus on the basic concepts in the beginning. If you understand, preload, afterload, contractility, and CO the rest of the course will fall into place.

Small group - A very organized course. Take advantage of all the sessions

Small group - Attend the small groups -- they are fantastic.

Small group - Be active in your small group.

Small group - Be prepared for small group

Small group - Be prepared for small groups, this is where you learn everything. Talk to students in other small groups. Each leader emphasizes different points and some tend to drop a lot more "pearls" than others.

Small group - Be sure to go to small groups and ask questions

Small group - Conferences are far more important than lecture. You need to go to all of them.

Small group - Definitely go to small group!

Small group - Do the conferences ahead of time and use that time as review and quizzing.

Small group - Go over the group small conferences and do each case prior to going to conference. Don't be afraid to talk to your small group leader, even though they may seem intimidating. They are quite nice.

Small group - Go through the small group discussions as much as possible.

Small group - Go to all small groups.

Small group - Go to ALL small groups; I did, and it helped out tremendously.

Small group - Go to all the small group sessions.

Small group - Go to Conference. This was the most helpful portion of the entire course.

Small group - Go to conferences! Not just because they're graded but because they are very helpful.

Small group - Go to small group

Small group - Go to small group

Small group - Go to small group

Small group - Go to small group and ask questions.

Small group - Go to small group no matter what.

Small group - Go to small group.

Small group - Go to small group.

Small group - Go to small groups and make sure you are comfortable with ECGs.

Small group - Go to small groups and you’ll be fine

Small group - Go to small groups because they are excellent.

Small group - Go to small groups- this is the best opportunity to make sure you understand the material.

Small group - Go to small groups!

Small group - Go to small groups.

Small group - Go to the conferences- they are really helpful.

Small group -- Go to the small groups

Small group - Go to the small groups except perhaps the path sessions.

Small group - Go to the small groups, they are really helpful.

Small group - If you feel like everyone else understands, but you do not, take heart, because there are probably several people who feel the same way, and by actively participating in conference and asking questions, you will help advance the knowledge of the entire group. Remember, there is no such thing as a stupid question-the conference leaders are kind and will leave your dignity intact!

Small group - Make sure to ask questions to your small group mentor.

Small group - Most of the small group instructors, who are all cardiologists, are excellent resources and your best bet for help in learning the material. Lectures are hit or miss like always but really make sure you bounce any problems or questions you are having off your group leaders.

Small group - Participate in conference.