IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 Meeting February 18th thru 20th 2009
Minutes
IEEE-STANDARDS ASSSOCIATION EXTERNAL REPRESENTATIVES
STANDARDS COORDINATING COMMITTEE
IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 Meeting
Attendees
NAME / Company / Panel / E-Mail / Phone / Attendance /17th / 18th / 19th /
Melvin K Sanders / Things Electrical Co.,Inc. / SCC-18
Chair / / (515) 240-6974 Cell / P / P / P
T. David Mills / Savannah River Nuclear Solutions, LLC / SCC-18
Vice-Chair / / (803) 925-8295 / P / P / P
Arthur J. Smith, III / Waldemar S. Nelson & Co., Inc. / SCC-18
Secretary / / (504) 593-5270 / P / P / P
Sue Vogel / IEEE Director,
Technical Committee Programs / Special Guest / / (732) 562-3817 / P
Stephen L. Dyrnes / Consulting Engineer / NFPA 70A
Principal / No e-mail address / 503-377-9699
Frank Denbrock / D&A Consulting Engineers / NFPA 70A
Alternate / / 517-788-3800
Melvin Sanders / TECO Inc. / NFPA 70B
Principal / / P / P / P
Dana Watts / Marathon Petroleum / NFPA 70B
Alternate / / 606-326-2570
Daleep Mohla / DCM Elect Consulting / NFPA 70E
Principal / / 281-261-7081 / P / P / P
Paul Dobrowsky / Innovative Technology Services / NFPA 70E
Alternate / / 585-797-4462 / Excused Absence
Stephen L. Dyrnes / Consulting Engineer / NFPA 73
Principal / No e-mail address / 503-377-9699
Vacant / NFPA 73
Alternate
Melvin Sanders / TECO Inc. / NFPA 780A
Principal / / P / P / P
Vacant / NFPA 780A
Alternate
H. Landis Floyd, II / DuPont / CMP-1
Principal / / 302-999-6390
Donald H McCullough / Washington Savannah River Co. / CMP-1
Alternate / / 803 725-6250 / Excused Absence
Richard W Becker / Engineered Electrical Systems / CMP-2
Principal / / 425-454-5440 / Excused Absence
Vacant / CMP-2
Alternate
Melvin Sanders / TECO Inc. / CMP-3
Principal / / P / P / P
T. David Mills / Savannah River Nuclear Solutions, LLC / CMP-3
Alternate / / 803-952-8295 / P / P / P
Robert J Deaton / Dow Chemical Co / CMP-4
Principal / / 713-978-2448 / P / P / P
Mark Gibbs / BW Y- 12 LLC / CMP-4
Alternate / / 865-574-8159 / P / P / P
Daleep C Mohla / DCM Elect Consulting / CMP-5
Principal / / 281-261-7081 / P / P / P
Elliot Rappaport / Electro Technology Consult., Inc. / CMP-5
Alternate / / 248-207-5111 / P / P / P
Bruce L. McClung / MC Squared Consulting Services Inc. / CMP-6
Principal / / 304-342-0588 / P / P / P
Donald A Voltz / British Petroleum / CMP-6
Alternate / / 713-215-8834
Dennis Neilson / Lawrence Berkely National Lab / CMP-7
Principal / / 510-486-4055 / P / P / P
Donald G. Dunn / ARAMCO / CMP-7
Alternate / / 713-432-8588 / P / P / P
M. Shan Griffith / Retired KBR / CMP-8
Principal / / 936-756-0625 / P / P / excused
Duane Carlson / PRS Consulting Engineers / CMP-8
Alternate / / 206-619-8232
Sukanta Sengupta / FMC Corporation / CMP-9
Princial / / 609-951-3829
Paul Myers / PCS Nitrogen / CMP-9
Alternate / / 419-226-1397 / P / P / P
Dennis Darling / Stantec / CMP-10
Principal / / (403) 716-8132 / P / P / P
Steven Townsend / General Motors Corporation. / CMP-10
Alternate / / 504-523-5281 / Excused Absence
Lynn F Saunders / Retired - General Motors Corporation. / CMP-11
Principal / / 810 220-5091 / P / P / P
Arthur J. Smith, III / NELSON / CMP-11
Alternate / / (504) 593-5270 / P / P / P
Ralph C Prichard / Hercules Inc. / CMP-12
Principal / / 302-995-3740
William E Anderson / The Procter & Gamble Company / CMP-12
Alternate /
/ 513 945-4303
Elliot Rappaport / Electro Technology Consult., Inc. / CMP-13
Principal / / 248-207-5111 / P / P / P
Robert Swayne / P2S Engineering / CMP-13
Alternate / / 562-497-2999
James Cospolich / Retired Waldemar S. Nelson & Co., Inc. / CMP-14
Principal /
/ 985-764-8770 / P / P / P
Donald W Zipse / Zipse Electrical Engineering Inc. / CMP-14
Alternate / / 610-358-1462
James R Duncan / Sparling / CMP-15
Principal / / 206-667-0510 / P / P / P
Matthew B Dozier / iDesign Services / CMP-15
Alternate / / 615-371-8787
William J. McCoy / Telco Sales, Inc. / CMP-16
Principal / / 817-329-0968 / P / P / P
Mario Spina / Verizon Wireless / CMP-16
Alternate / / 330-807-7713 / P / P / P
Paul Crivell / Camp, Dresser & McKee / CMP-17
Principal / / (425) 453-8383 / P / P / P
Chet Sandberg / CMP-17
Alternate /
Steven A Larson / BWXT-Y12 / CMP-18
Princial / / 865-574-3201
Vacant / CMP-18
Alternate
Vacant / CMP-19
Principal
Vacant / CMP-19
Alternate
Vacant / CMP-20
Princial
Vacant / CMP-20
Alternate
Thomas Domitrovich / Eaton / Guest / / 412-716-1475
Meeting Location: Aramco Services Company
9009 West Loop South
Houston, Texas 77096-1799
(713) 432-4000
Contact person: Donald G. Dunn (713) 432-8588 E-mail:
Meeting Room:
Time: February 18-19-20, 2009
8:00 am – 6:00 pm Wednesday
8:00 am – 6:00 pm Thursday
8:00 am – Noon Friday
Facilitator: Daleep Mohla/Mel Sanders
Scribe: Arthur Smith
1. Call to Order (Mel Sanders)
a) Introduction of IEEE-SA OB/C SCC 18 Chair – (Mel Sanders)
b) Introduction of special guests
i. Sue Vogel, IEEE Director, Technical Committee Programs
ii. Ben Johnson, IEEE-SA Board of Governors
2. Welcome to 1st IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 Committee Meeting (Mel Sanders)
a) Introductions:
i. Vice-Chair - David Mills, Senior Member and SA Member - Bechtel Savannah River Site
ii. Secretary – Arthur J. Smith, III, Waldemar S. Nelson & Co., Inc.
iii. Self-introduction of those present (all)
3. Determination of quorum for record (Mel Sanders)
Notes:
1. 36 Principal, Alternate and Technical Committee members as of January 31, 2009) Mel Sanders established a quorum with 19 voting members present
2. All IEEE meetings, including SCC 18, are open to all wishing to attend; however, Business Meeting voting is limited to IEEE-SA ER only
Members Present (see sign sheet)
1. Wednesday February 18th - 19
2. Thursday February 19th - 19
3. Wednesday February 20th - 18
4. Determination of voting count and record (Mel Sanders)
Note: 50% +1 of all those ER for all CMP and TC present, including Alternates required
5. Recognitions
Sue Vogel recognized Daleep Mohla for his years of service as chair of SCC-18 and numerous other IEEE activities
The entire SCC-18 Team recognizes Donald Dunn and Aramco Services for all the hospitality extended
6. IEEE SA External Representative (ER) Overview (Ben Johnson and Sue Vogel)
Ben presented an overview of the IEEE Standards Association requirements (see attached IEEE ER Power Point Presentation)
Notes:
External Representative (ER) APPLICATION TO IEEE-SA
IEEE members to fill out an application form based upon IEEE-SA (Updated) December 2008 Operations Manual along with an NFPA application form. These will be forwarded to IEEE-SA for ER positions. Included will be a list of categories (being developed) that each member will use to "self categorize within SCC18." These will then enable IEEE-SA to ensure that a balanced representation of IEEE members is maintained. Successful applications to IEEE-SA would then be submitted to NFPA for acceptance within the "User category" of the NFPA process (see action item No. 6).
Revised Bylaws
The SCC18 committee must complete the revision to the Bylaws (Policies and Procedures) for SCC18 as directed by the Standards Association. A task group will be needed to complete the revision, and submit the new document to SCC18 for adoption, and then submittal to the SA. A Draft of this document has been prepared, but a review and revision is necessary to address additional changes and to document the "User category" issue as it is resolved between IEEE-SA and NFPA.
NFPA Scope Statements
Files containing Scope Statements of NFPA documents on which IEEE members serve will be made available when completed. Those files will be sent to all SCC 18 Members and will then also be posted upon the Public SCC 18 web page.
7. Approval/Amendments of Agenda (All) Note: No Prior Minutes Available
Motion and second made with unanimous approval given to accept the Meeting Agenda “as-is”
8. Committee status update (Mel Sanders)
a) IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 representative openings
i. Reference current openings in attendance list above
ii. Mel Sanders to distribute a list with open IEEE standards representation including current members with plans to withdraw.
b) At present, SCC-18 should treat each proposal on its own merits
9. IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 TC Approval Process for Directed Vote
a) Sue Vogel to provide SCC-18 IEEE-SASB voting Directions on proposals utilizing NESC for correlation purposes.
10. IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 ROP Panel reports and actions
a) NFPA 70A National Electrical Code® Requirements for One- and Two-Family Dwellings
(Stephen L. Dyrnes Principal, Frank Denbrock Alternate)
Mel Sanders reviewed IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 TC NFPA 70A Report – see attached report
b) NFPA 70B Recommended Practice for Electrical Equipment Maintenance
(Mel Sanders Principal, Dana Watts Alternate)
Mel Sanders reviewed IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 TC NFPA 70B Report – see attached report
c) NFPA 70E Standard for Electrical Safety in the Workplace®
(Daleep Mohla Principal, Paul Dobrowsky Alternate)
Daleep Mohla reviewed IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 TC Report for NFPA 70E – see attached report
d) NFPA 73 Electrical Inspection Code for Existing Dwellings
(Stephen L. Dyrnes Principal)
e) NFPA 780 Standard for the Installation of Lightning Protection Systems
(Mel Sanders Principal, No Alternate)
Mel Sanders reviewed IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 TC Report for NFPA 780 – see attached report
Motion to accept report as read – Motion passed
11. IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 ROP Panel reports and actions, presented in numerical order
12. Path Forward
a) ROC schedule
i. ROC closing date October 23, 2009
ii. IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 pre-ROC meeting November 11-12-13, 2009
Note: Not intended to be a face to face meeting – plan for teleconference
iii. CMP meetings December 1 -14, 2009
iv. ROC mailed to CMP members December 18, 2009
v. ROC Ballots due January 12, 2010; note this is a TUESDAY
b) IEEE-ER SCC 18 meeting dates
i. January 6-7-8, 2010
Note: these dates are WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY-FRIDAY prior to the TUESDAY ballot vote deadline
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IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 Meeting February 18th thru 20th 2009
Minutes
13. Action Items
Item / Description / Person Responsible for Completion / Target Completion Date / Comments /1 / All IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 members must obtain IEEE alias e-mail addresses / All / Too much work to do otherwise
2 / ROP Ballots due February 27, 2009; note this is a FRIDAY / ALL / February 25th / IEEE-SA ER SCC 18 votes should be submitted as quickly as possible; no later than February 25 to ensure timely receipt by NFPA; note this is a WEDNESDAY
Both Principal and Alternate ballots must be exact duplicates and each must send in their ballot individually; however, only the Principal vote ballot will count
In the event the Principal’s ballot is lost, late, or whatever, the Alternate vote ballot will then count as though it were the Principal vote ballot
3 / E-mail notice also sent at that time to OB/C Chair confirming the vote submittal / ALL / February 25th
4 / Distribute a list with open IEEE standards representation / Mel Sanders
5 / Provide IEEE-SASB voting Directions to SCC-18 on proposals utilizing NESC for correlation purposes / Sue Vogel
Mel Sanders
6 / External Representative (ER) APPLICATION TO IEEE-SA.
IEEE members to fill out an application form based upon IEEE-SA (Updated) December 2008 Operations Manual along with an NFPA application form. These will be forwarded to IEEE-SA for ER positions. Included will be a list of categories (being developed) that each member will use to "self categorize within SCC18." These will then enable IEEE-SA to ensure that a balanced representation of IEEE members is maintained. Successful applications to IEEE-SA would then be submitted to NFPA for acceptance within the "User category" of the NFPA process. / SCC-18 Members
14. Meeting Critique
15. Meeting adjourns 11:59:30 am Friday February 20, 2009
16. Attachments
a)
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