Small CU Networking Op

February 28, 2012

  • Forms
  • Company does forms for Ultradata system; $250 per form per year. Tal Novak.
  • Oaktree
  • Fees
  • Research fees: $20/hour to $75/hour
  • Checks: couple of bucks a copy
  • Garnishment fee: $20
  • Subordination fees, when asked to subordinate a second: $50-$250 from Provo Postal. Freedom doesn’t charge it. Make the title company prepare the subordination. CUP charges $200.
  • $20 extension fee for skip-a-payment: Logan Cache Rich
  • St. Mark’s has stopped refunding overdraft fees. IBEW makes members take Balance questions when they refund overdrafts.
  • When to tell members enough is enough on overdrafts: FDIC has a statement, but NCUA does not.
  • Loan refinance fee: if you charge they may leave. Some add an amount ($100 or $50 or $20 on consumer or $200 for mortgage) onto the loan if the loan balance is not changed. For mortgages $200, or 1% of balance.
  • IBEW: $20 if they get the loan. NCUA told Prison Employees to start charging origination fees.
  • 1 credit union charges a cash advance fee of $2.
  • Allow members to make loan payments on debit cards? People allow that--if they have card swiping machines. Half of the credit unions at the meeting do this.
  • Examiners told Kris at Prison CU that you can charge people a fee on a loan if they don’t have direct deposit.
  • Most credit unions pay the title fee on a new car loan, but one or two don’t.
  • What if the member doesn’t set up the direct deposit and automatic payment for a loan? Do they get the discount? How do you handle it? Write it up for the higher amount, and then also write up a subsequent action to handle the problem. Must send a change-of-terms notice. Meadow Gold requires that they are already on direct deposit. Freedom doesn’t do it.
  • ACH through SunCorp coming up--anyone know anything about that? Nothing yet.
  • Pulling credit reports--prices raised this year. What are you paying to pull credit reports?
  • NACM: National Association of Credit Managers: X free a month, then $15.
  • Experian: $2.30, under 3. Depends on what you add on to it. In-state $2.75, out of state $3.75.
  • On home banking, there is a requirement to make online banking more secure--MFA is not enough, anymore.
  • Layered security which continues throughout the session. Applies especially to transfers and bill pay. Business platforms.
  • Heather has guidance, will send.
  • Online banking provider should be working on this. Give them the guidance and ask what they are doing to make it compliant.
  • Collections: Greenflag: Education 1st used one year and it didn’t make a difference; several other credit unions are using them. Freedom likes it enough to renew once so far. “Love” is a little strong.
  • Do you have to let the examiners come when they want to? Heather will ask...
  • Disaster recovery:
  • Extended power outage
  • Go home
  • Generators (lined-up beforehand): line up people to call beforehand.
  • Old-fashioned land-line phones.
  • Can also get phone company to forward calls to cell phones.
  • Web page--can put the notice up on the web site.
  • Take phone numbers with you.
  • Freedom sends in positive balance file every day, less than $200 a month.
  • Daily limit on debit cards:
  • Freedom: Pin-based: $510
  • $200 on ATM; $1030 at Premier Services. $210 at Meadow Gold.
  • $1000 at Meadow Gold and Varian
  • Freedom: Signature-based: $3000, $500
  • CUP has no daily limit
  • If you change your daily limits, send a change-in-terms notice.
  • What are your top priorities for 2012?
  • Build capital. Make money.
  • Avoid merger.
  • Make loans at higher than 2.99%.
  • RV Loans
  • Short-term mortgage loans (5-year loans at attractive rates on excellent paper, no closing costs, done in-house; or 8-year and under; 3.5 to 4.5 %. No closing costs makes the difference. 70% or less LTV; amortize 25-30 years with 5-year call but with fees).
  • Marketing is leading to marketing at CUP; Balloon on auto loan.
  • Provo Postal is trying a payday type loan; 2-week loan: $10 per $100 financed. Meadow Gold has a similar program: must pay fee up front, then add amount of fee on loan, and eventually can turn it into a share-secured loan; forced-savings component; first two are $300 maximum; must have direct deposit.
  • Credit-rebuilder with a share-secured line of credit; can’t use money in the savings account to pay down the loan; lots of young people us that to repair credit.
  • Non-member deposits: pretty easy for federal credit unions--Ann B. at CUP can probably help with that! Take a look at the policy.
  • What do you do to prepare for an exam?
  • Fill in half of the sheet they ask for, then see if they ask for anything else. Maybe give them access to a dropbox share online, so that they have everthing already when they get there.
  • No longer make copies they ask for; put on flash drive instead.
  • Pull out last exam to make sure fixed everything they asked for.
  • Make sure all board member and management loans are in board meeting minutes, also charge-offs. Make sure minutes are all signed.