Minutes of JTC1 Ad Hoc Meeting Tuesday, 15 March2011

Mar 2011doc.: IEEE 802.11-11/0548r0

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Minutes of JTC1 Ad Hoc Meeting Tuesday, 15 March2011

• Meeting called to order 10:30 Local time
• See document 11-11-0311-00, containing the agenda and applicable documents
• Chair reviewed proposed agenda (see slides 9-12)
• Moved Dave Halasz, Seconded Tom Seip, no objection.
• Motion to approve minutes, see slide 14
• Moved Dorothy Stanley, Seconded Jim Lansford, no objection
• Chair reviewed goals of the group, see slide 15
• Scope expanded to 802 as agreed Nov 2010
• Reviewed slide 16
• Effort to liaise documents – SB drafts to SC6. Note TGmb Draft 7.0 and TGs Draft 9.0 can be liaised after this meeting.
• Have received positive feedback that this liaison activity is appreciated; little to no technical feedback.
• Reviewed Slide 19
• Swiss NB response to conflicts.
• Reviewed Slide 20
• China NB response to conflicts.
• Reviewed Slides 21, 22
• Edits to proposed IEEE response.
• Reviewed slide 23
• ISO systematic review of 8802-11:2005, expect to be confirmed.
• Reviewed slide 24
• ISO systematic review of 8802-3:2000, status of voting results not known at this time.
• Reviewed slides 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 expect 11-10-1358-02 liaison to be discussed at the upcoming June SC6 meeting.
• Discussion on comment dispositions; comment resolution sheet goes with document
• Differences group to group – no single way of doing business; requirement in JTC1 for consensus – no sustained opposition on substantive issues. Does SC6 implement their own guidelines?
• Reviewed slide 30
• WAPI copyright issue – IEEE staff working on this
• Review of agenda items for Wednesday session
• Review of N14401
• NP proposal for replacement of 802.11 – consider preparing a response to this document in May
• Their proposal is based on downbanding LTE; how does it work in unlicensed spectrum?
• Concerns re: effort required for benefit gained.
• Recess at 12:15

Minutes of JTC1 Ad Hoc Meeting Wednesday, 16 Mar 2011

• Meeting called to order 08:01 Local time
• See document 11-11-0311-01, containing the agenda and applicable documents
• Chair reviewed proposed agenda (see slides 9-12) and work completed yesterday
• Chair reviewed slides 31-34
• London SC6 meeting NB proposals and actions on these to date
• 802.11 will respond to 802.11 replacement proposal in May meeting
• Here, discuss 802.1X and 802.1ae material
• All 4 NP proposals will be on SC6 agenda for June; intent in London was to ask for a Study Groups, now skipping SG and moving to NP phase
• Expect lobbying in advance
• When must NPs be posted? 30 days before the meeting to be subject to motions, unless no one objects.
• Review of proposed liaison response to N13399 and N14402
• 2 main responses – one asking for dialogue, second for technical response/inaccuracies
• Discussion on text; meeting times – July IEEE meeting, teleconference
• Audience is the SC6 members, Have discussion in San Diego SC6 meeting?
• Proposing a single topic meeting
• Need 802.1 representatives at the June meeting; Most of discussion Monday-Weds. – Action Tony Jeffree
• Different meetings for different purposes
• Advertise cooperation agreement with
• Provide latest versions of 802.1X and 802.1ae to the liaison letter, and point to Get802
• Need to have cover letters specifically for sending the documents.
• Edits to the annex.
• Chair to post updated liaison letter.
• Need to get review from IEEE International Ad-hoc; chair will forward.
• Have sent liaisons, how to get responses. Procedural steps to get a response? Need to identify. Discuss with JTC1 leadership.
• Procedural violations at prior meeting? Perhaps, details not clear; don’t see a benefit in pursuing.
• Cover letter
• Bruce to prepare.
• Recess at 10:00 local time

Minutes of JTC1 Ad Hoc Meeting Thursday, 17 Mar 2011

• Meeting called to order 10:30 Local time
• See document 11-11-0311-01, containing the agenda and applicable documents
• Chair reviewed proposed agenda (see slide 12) and work for today
• Chair reviewed slides 36, 37
• Next JTC1 meeting details, review by IEEE International ad-hoc underway
• Motion-
• The IEEE 802 JTC1 ad hoc recommends to IEEE 802 ExCom that Bruce Kraemer be appointed Head of Delegation of the IEEE 802 Delegation to the SC6 meeting in San Diego in June 2011. The ad hoc also recommends that as Head of Delegation that he have the authority to add other interested parties to the delegation
• Moved: Dorothy Stanley
• Seconded: Richard Edgar
• Result 10-0-0
• Action: will be considered by IEEE 802 ExCom on Friday

• Review of Document 404
• The IEEE 802 JTC1 ad hoc recommends to the IEEE 802.11 ANA that two status codes and an IE identifier be allocated for use by ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6/WG1 in the proposed WAPI standard
• Moved: Bruce Kraemer
• Seconded: Richard Edgar
• Result: 10-0-0
• Need to communicate what we have done to ISO.
• Do we need to send to specific NBs? No, liaison is with SC6

• Motion
• The IEEE 802 JTC1 ad hoc recommends to the IEEE 802.11 WG, IEEE 802 ExCom and IEEE International ad hoc that:
• The content of 11-11-404r0 be sent to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 with an appropriate cover letter
• Bruce Kraemer be given authority to make editorial changes, including the insertion of allocated ANA values
• Moved: Richard Edgar
• Seconded: Dan Harkins
• Result: 10-0-0

• Proposed liaison related to the proposed NP for an IEEE 802.1X/AE replacement, incorporates editorial comments, with exception of an error in the quote.

• Motion:
• The IEEE 802 JTC1 ad hoc recommends to the IEEE 802.11 WG, IEEE 802 ExCom and IEEE International ad hoc that:
• The content of 11-11-442r1 be sent to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 with an appropriate cover letter
• Paul Nikolich be given authority to make editorial changes
• Moved: Bruce Kraemer
• Seconded: Roger Durand
• Result: 11-0-0
• Notify Tony that the JTC1 ad-hoc has approved this document; 802.1 will consider in their plenary. Send him the latest copy.
• Discussion on delegates; 802.1 identifying volunteers. Deadline for registration in nominally 30 days before the June JTC1 session.
• Motion:
• The IEEE 802 JTC1 ad hoc recommends to the IEEE 802.11 WG, IEEE 802 ExCom and IEEE International ad hoc that copies of IEEE 802.1X and IEEE 802.1AE be sent to SC6 with an appropriate cover letter from Paul Nikolich. Paul Nikolich is also authorized to send any draft amendments to these documents if relevant.
• Moved: Bruce Kraemer
• Seconded: Dorothy Stanley
• Result: 11-0-0
• Chair: Are there any other items of business?
• Question on last motion – if relevant? If required? How is this determined? Judgment on Paul’s part, based on advice from members.
• May – Prepare for June meeting. There was a presentation proposing replacement of 802.11. Could provide a response to that presentation. Is there interest in doing that in May? Yes. Word and ppt format.
• Create presentations for contributions to review at the May meeting, submit to JTC1. Distribute to the EC in advance.
• 802.16 security response? Raise the question at the EC.
• Need a summary of completed work, open items for the EC meeting tomorrow.
• Additional items may appear on the JTC1 agenda between now and May. Need to respond as required.
• Telecon prior to the meeting? Authorize as required.
• Summary of Paul’s action items: Inform 802.1 – discuss, recruit attendees, determine if amendment to 11ae should be sent.
• Recess at 11:05 local time

Submissionpage 1Andrew Myles (Cisco)