CHEMICAL PROCESSING

JUNE 2014

CONFIRMED

CONFIRMED MINUTES

JUNE 23-26, 2014

DUBLIN, IRELAND

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

MONDAY, JUNE23 to THURSDAY, JUNE 26

1.0OPENING COMMENTS

1.1Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Chemical Processing Task Group (CPTG) was called to order at 9:00a.m., 23-Jun-2014.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME / COMPANY NAME
* / Hal / Abel / Raytheon Co.
* / Daniel / Amara / Israel Aerospace Industries
Alan / Barnes / Lockhead Martin Corporation
Jeremy / Barnes / The Boeing Company
* / Malik / Boutoba / Airbus Helicopters
* / Craig / Bowden / BAE Systems - Military Air & Information (MAI)
Ricardo / Bove / Embraer
* / Bob / Cashman / Parker Aerospace Group
Wojciech / Cmok / Goodrich (UTAS)
* / Alessio / Colombara / AgustaWestland
* / Karyn / Deming / Goodrich (UTAS) / Chairperson
* / Robert / Faticanti / Textron Systems
* / Aleck / Featherston / Bell Helicopter Textron
Seamus / Hearne / Honeywell Aerospace
* / Robert / Koukol / Honeywell Aerospace
* / Serge / Labbe / HerouxDevtek Inc.
Eric / Le Fort / Sonaca
* / Marc-Andre / Lefebvre / HerouxDevtek Inc.
* / Mihaela / Lupu / SAFRAN Group
Patrick / McGinty / Rolls-Royce
* / Tom / Moreland / Bombardier Inc.
David / Neal / Rolls-Royce
* / Jerker / Nordh / GKN Aerospace Sweden AB
* / Jim / O'Shea / GE Aviation
Minh / Quan / Triumph Group
Brad / Richwine / Raytheon Co.
* / Josefa / Rodriguez Baena / Airbus Defence & Space
* / Jerry / Satchwell / Rolls-Royce
Jonathan / Scudder / Pratt & Whitney
Ralph / Sekkel / Lockheed Martin Corporation
Mariusz / Stanczyk / Lockheed Martin
* / Steve / Starr / Honeywell Aerospace
* / Mike / Stolze / Northrop Grumman Corporation / Vice Chairperson
* / Zia / Usmani / BAE Systems Air & Information (MAI)
* / Shawn / Vierthaler / Spirit AeroSystems Inc.
* / Michael / Vosatka / Rockwell Collins
* / Gene / Wallace / Triumph Aerostructures - VAD
* / Sergey / Yesilevich / Hamilton Sundstrand (UTAS)
Stephan / Zeimetz / Liebherr-Aerospace Lindenberg GmbH

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME / COMPANY NAME
* / Mark / Airey / Robert Stuart Ltd.
Yavuz / Akalin / Turkish Aerospace Industries Inc. (TAI)
Tomohiko / Ashikaga / Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.
* / Phillip / Bratton / Hohman Plating & Mfg. Inc.
* / Phillip / Brockman / Techmetals Inc.
* / Lee / Bruce / Robert Stuart Ltd.
* / Larry / Carlson / PPI Aerospace
* / Stephane / Chaumeil / Galion
John / Clatworthy / SAE International
Neil / Cowan / PRI/Nadcap Auditor
David / Curry / Tewkesbury (Diamond Chrome) Plating Co. Ltd.
* / Alex / French / Aerofin Laboratories Ltd.
* / Paul / French / Aerofin Laboratories Ltd.
Markus / Fuchsmann / OHO Fuchs KG
Michael / Barenberg / OHO Fuchs KG
Dave / Gray / Mitchell Laboratories Inc.
* / Jonathan / Hebben / Ducommun AeroStructures Gardena
* / Bill / Heeter / Skills Inc.
Ladisslav / Hubinsky / Nu-Pro Limited
Michel / Jacquaniello / Zodiac Aerospace
David / Kelly / The ASKO Group
Cindy / Klinger / AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.
Heinrich / Kuchlbauer / AerotechPeissenberg GmbH & Co KG
Rick / Kuhns / Bristol Aerospace LTD
* / Rosa / Martin / Superior Plating Co.
Stephen / Mayer / South West Metal Finishing Ltd.
Ian / McDonald / Robert Stuart Ltd.
* / David / Michaud / Fountain Plating Inc.
Hiroaki / Mikawa / Mitsubishi Heavy Ind.
Kristen / Mitchell / South West Metal Finishing Paint Division
Thomas / Newton / Aircraft X-Ray Laboratories Inc.
Julie / Nguyen / Element Materials Technology (Rancho Dominguez)
Lee / Parsley / Click Bond Inc.
George / Petrescu / ULTRASPEC
* / Kim / Porter / Poly-Metal Finishing
* / Dennis / Reidy / CIL Metal Finishing
Christian / Rienter / The Policy Group
* / Jim / Ringer / Tech Met
* / Cynthia / Roth / Team Industrial Services TCM Division
Tammi / Schubert / LMI Finishing, Inc.
* / Dave / Serbousek / Olympic Scientific Inc.
Ronald / Stewart / Ellison Surface Technologies
Keith / Vale / LISI Aerospace
* / Gerald / Wahlin / AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.
Wilfried / Weber / PFW Aerospace AG
Bartosz / Wojtczak / NU-PRO Ltd.
Seyma / Yavuz / Aral Havacilik San.ve Tic. Ltd.
Johan / Yttervik / GKN Aerospace Norway

PRI Staff Present

Nigel / Cook
Will / Calvert

1.2Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes– OPEN

Motion made by Cindy Roth and seconded by Jonathon Hebbenthat the minutes from February 2014meeting be approved as written. Motion Passed.

1.3RAIL Review – OPEN

The Rolling Action Item List (RAIL)was reviewed by Will Calvert.

For specific details, please see the current Chemical Processing Rolling Action Item List posted at under Public Documents.

2.0DELEGATION OVERSIGHT – CLOSED

Thedelegation trackers, t-frm-07s, of Mike Graham, Nigel Cook, Will Calvert, Robert Nixon, Bob Lizewski andBill Dumas were reviewed. All of the delegated reviewers had exceeded criteria for maintaining delegation. The Task Group voted to continue the delegation of all delegated Staff Engineers.

The tracker for Jack Holman, a non-delegated consultant reviewer, was also reviewed. There were no issues of concern raised by the Task Group.

3.0NUCAP – CLOSED

There were no new NUCAP issues such as scope exceptionsfor discussion.

4.0AUDITOR CONSISTENCY (nop-012) - CLOSED

Mike Stolze gave a presentation on the results of observation audits and desk top audits.

The intentions were to provide more consistent auditing results from all of the Auditors. The NOP-012 Nadcap Management Council (NMC)Sub-Team has created a Milestone Plan which now has 68 line items. The Standard Metrics data was reviewed with the Task Group. A Consistency Program is being developed in accordance with the milestone plan. The sub-team is largely on track with the action items through June 2014. Eighteen (18) Observation feedback forms have beenreceived to date of which six (6) were for focused auditors. A list of future actions was reviewed with the Task Group.

Nigel reviewed eAuditNet showing where the information on oversight audits could be found. It was demonstrated that the auditor oversight information is not available to the Suppliers.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to investigate as to whether t-frm-01(Observer Feedback Form) and t-frm-01 appendix can be combined into the same record (Due Date: 31-Jul-2014).

5.0RISK MITIGATION - CLOSED

Mike Stolze gave a presentation on behalf of the Risk Mitigation Sub-Team. The first CP audit subject to risk mitigation has been failed and a number of subscribers agreed to volunteer for the process and Mike Stolze agreed to be the lead.

The training presentations for the risk mitigation process, for subscribers and suppliers, can be found at Public Documents > eAuditNet > User Guides / Tutorials.

ACTION ITEM: Mike Stolze to report out at the October meeting on the lessons learned, open item (Due Date: 20-Oct-2014).

6.0RESOLUTION BY TASK GROUP ISSUES - CLOSED

(Robert Nixon) Audit 151144Non-Conformance Report(NCR) #4: NCR was generated for not performing water break. The only two Primes currently supported by this process do not require water break free testing after the cleaning step. The Task Group agreed that the water break free test shall be upheld because it is a checklist requirement and is a commonly required test to confirm cleanliness for wet processing.

(Nigel Cook) Audit 158405: An observation NCR is being raised. AC 7108F, 5.8.3 requires water break free test after cleaning cycle.Finding: In job audit # 5 per AC 7108F, silver plating per AMS 2411G, supplier's lot # 2014-6-1-1, scrap part, prior to plating, parts were cleaned in alkaline cleaner followed by sand blast. Although water break free test was conducted after alkaline clean and prior to sand blasting, there was no water break free test performed after sand blast and prior to plating process.

Note that the process sequence is: alkaline clean, water rinse, water break free test,blow dry, racking, masking, sand blast, water rinse, acid dip, water rinse,nickel strike, etc.

AMS2411 Rev. H states, “3.1.2 Nickel strike plating shall be applied over a clean and active surface that will result in a deposit that meets the adhesion and quality requirements of this specification.”AC7108 Rev Fhas various requirements in paragraphs 5.8.2 through 5.8.6.

The question is whether blasting is considered cleaning or activation, and if activation, is activation part of the cleaning cycle.

Motion made by Hal Abel and seconded by Jim O’Shea to require a Water Break Free Testafter grit blasting and before plating. Motion Passed.

(Will Calvert) Audit 152296 –Verification Audit (VCA): This was a zero findings or no non-sustaining issues found on the VCA. The procedures are not clear on whether a zero finding VCA isrequired to be balloted. How would the Task Group like us to proceed in the future withthis situation?

NOP-001The revisionthat is to be used after 10-Aug-2014, para 11.2.9.1 states, “A VCA audit conducted only for the verification of corrective actions where no findings are identified may be closed without Task Group review at the discretion of the Task Group. This may be defined in the NTGOP-001 Task Group appendix or in the ballot comments for the audit requiring the VCA audit.”

The suggested verbiage to be included in NTGOP-001 Appendix CP is:
“VCA audits that have zero (0) findings may be closed by the Audit Report Reviewer without Task Group review.”

Motion made by Jerry Satchwell and seconded by Serge Labbe to accept the verbiage as written to be included in NTGOP-001 Appendix CP. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to include new verbiage into NTGOP-001 Appendix CP (Due Date: 31-Dec-2014).

(Nigel Cook) Merit Appeals:There werefour appeals for merit and three were accepted (148316, 152295, 156701). Merit is typically denied due to an “escape” being identified in the present or previous audit. This was raised at the October NMCPlanning & Operations (P&O) meeting and theNMC Standardization Committee wasplanningto look at it.

The Task Group decided that the Customer(s) with Design Authority shall be the only authority to determine whether there is no potential product impact/escape. All specification violations are therefore to be treated as escapes unless the supplier obtains design authority concurrence that there is no escape.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to include in the next CP Team meeting (Due Date: 08-Jul-2014).

(Will Calvert) Audit 156880, NCR #2: The findingwas: “Are tanks with defined temperature ranges operating within the posted range?” (Reference AC7108 para 5.3.7)

Hardcoat Anodize tank temperature range listed as 35-60 degrees F. Parts placed in tank without voltage with calibrated temperature gauge indicating 32 degrees F. Tank was agitated for 1 minute. Temperature rose to 37 degrees F. Voltage applied at 37 degrees F.
There were questions about when process time started and also about whether tanks should be at temperature prior to immersing parts (AC7108 Rev F paras 5.3.4 and 5.3.5)

Motion made by Hal Abel and seconded by Gene Wallace that tank solutions must be within the required temperature range before parts are immersed.Motion Passed 16:1

(Mike Graham) Audit #157668,NCR 008: The Task Group was asked if there needs to be better clarification of what is meant by chemicals used for production use. There was an issue with this audit on an unmarked bottle of Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK)used to clean paint guns and the uncertainty as to whether this should be considered “production use”.

Motion made by Hal Abel and seconded by Zia Usmani to accept that the current wording of the Checklist is adequate as written and does not need modification. Motion Passed.

(Mike Graham) Audit #157668,NCR 13:There was a concern with a Supplier batching of test samples and whether this was acceptable to the Task Group. Note: The meaning of batchingwould be test panels that are processed at the correct frequency, but the actual test is not performed until a later date.

Motion made by Jim O’Shea and seconded by Hal Abel that the preparation of the test coupons/panel as well as the testing is part of the overall testing requirements. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to check with other commodities to see how they handle the lag time due to batching, add clarification to the Audit Handbook, and bring back to next meeting for approval. (Due Date: 20-Oct-2014).

7.0Surface Enhancement Task Group (SETG) - OPEN

Representatives from the SETG, including Bill Dumas,were due to come to the CPTG to discuss concerns on stressrelief/de-embrittlement; however, due to a scheduling conflict the discussion was cancelled.

The SETG have a concern that a stress relief/de-embrittlement operation will be performed on peened parts when it is not required or an incorrect treatment will be performed. For example, chromium plate requires some machined parts be stress relieved prior to plating. Most chromium plating specifications have a warning similar to that in AMS2406 where it is stated “For peened parts: If stress relief temperatures above 375 °F (191 °C) are elected, the stress relieve shall be performed prior to peening or the cognizant engineering organization shall be consulted and shall approve the stress relief temperature”.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to check with Bill Dumas/Brian Manty to see if the SETG wish to discuss this in October. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2014).

8.0VOTING MEMBER APPROVAL & COMPLIANCE WITH VOTING REQUIREMENTS – OPEN

The following requests for voting membership were received:

Title / First Name / Surname / Company / Voting Member Type / Meetings Attended
Mr. / Mariusz / Stanczyk / Lockheed Martin Corporation / Alternate Subscriber Voting Member (ALT-UVM) / Feb-14 / Jun-13
Mr. / David / Neal / Rolls-Royce / Subscriber Voting Member (UVM)(Replacing Jerry Satchwell) / Feb-14 / Jun-14
Mr. / Phil / Brockman / Techmetals Inc. / Supplier Voting Member (SVM)(Replacing William Ferris) / Feb-14 / Jun-14
Mr. / Minh / Quan / Triumph Group / ALT/UVM / Feb-13 / Jun-14
Mr. / Jonathan / Scudder / Pratt & Whitney / UVM / Oct-13 / Feb-14
Ms. / Cindy / Klingler / AAA Plating& Inspection Inc. / Alternate Supplier Voting Member (ALT/SVM) / Oct-12 / Jun-14
Mr. / Tomohiko / Ashikaga / Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. / UVM / Oct-12 / Jun-13

Motion made by Cindy Roth and seconded by Gene Wallace to approve all the above voting members. Motion Passed.

The following people have not met requirements to maintain voting rights, or are relinquishing their voting rights, and they will be removed:

-William (Bill) Ferris, Techmetals Inc. – Bill has retired from Techmetals Inc.

-Bob Denton, B D Industries Inc. - Bob is retiring his ALT/UVM vote, but Jim is retaining voting rights for B D Industries.

-Bob Custer has retired from AAA Plating.

-Jerry Satchwell, Rolls-Royce – Jerry is relinquishing his voting membership.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook and Joyce Benkart to update compliance spreadsheet and eAuditNet. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2014).

9.0New supplier orientation - open

Jonathan Hebben gave a presentation for new suppliers on the Nadcap mentoring system and some other general items.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to update the New Supplier Orientation presentation with the latest contacts and details. (Due Date: 20-Oct-2014).

10.0translation of checklists

Josefa Rodriguez Baena from EADS CASA has reviewed and approved the Spanish translation of AC7108 Rev F that was written by Juan Garcia from Honeywell Aerospace.Josefa proposed a number of changes to the checklist and these were reviewed.

Motion made ZiaUsmani and seconded by Jerry Wahlin to approve the Spanish revision of the checklist with the proposed changes subject to the agreement of Juan Garcia. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to arrange for agreement by Juan Garcia to proposed changes of theSpanish Translation of AC7108 Rev F and for it to be posted on eAuditNet (Due Date: 31-Jul-2014).

A Chinese translation of AC7108 Rev Fwas being prepared by Hong Ping Zhao from Bombardier but Nigel has never been provided.

Action Item: Tom Moreland, Bombardier, agreed to check on the status of the Chinese translation. (Due Date: 20-Oct-2014).

Chinese versions of Nadcap Checklists are listed on theChinese Aerospace Quality Group (CAQG)website and Japanese versions of Nadcap Checklists are listed on the (JAQG)Japanese Aerospace Quality Groupwebsite. These checklists have not been verified by Nadcap.

11.0NMC Metrics & Auditor Capacity – open

Will Calvert reviewed the Auditor Capacity and NMC metrics.

Nigel Cook gave a report out on why suppliers are not achieving merit. Of the 950 Chemical Process Audits conducted last year approximately 200 were identified as having an “Escape or Type P/C Advisory”.

Motion made by Bill Heeter and seconded by Jonathon Hebben that the data on why Suppliers are not achieving Merit be drilled down to better understand the reasons why there are product escapes that affects Merit. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to review and categorize data on why Supplier are not receiving Merit due to product impact in a manner that prevents exposing Prime’s proprietary specifications and present at the next meeting. (Due Date: 20-Oct-2014).

12.0Chemical ProcessingCP/NonDestructive Testing(NDT) AC7108/2 Proposal – open

Nigel Cook presented an analysis of audits whose duration would be affected by the CP/NDT Sub-team proposal to have separate checklists for pre-penetrant etch and etch inspection and to have at least one job audit for each etch method.

Feedback forms were used to establish mandated parameters such as hours of training and exam scores.

There was a stated concern that the requested NDT changes may have an impact on the overall CP audit as the emphasis on the required NDT job audits may cause a sacrifice in the number of CP job audits done.

NOP-002 states that these changes are to be cost effective and this may not be as proposed.

The number of job audits is to be discussed in the joint CP/NDT meeting on Thursday afternoon.

Key issues:

  • Maintaining the job audits for the CPTechnologies in the scope and assessing the time frame.
  • Need to understand impact of additional NDT checklists on the duration of an NDT audit. Such as Digital Radiography, Eddy Current, Computer Radiographic.
  • Use a pilot audit to assess the feasibility of completing the Etch audit. The pilot audit has not taken place.
  • CP considers Etch as one Technology but NDT considers it as 4 potentially 5 Technologies which could lead to CP job audits being sacrificed.
  • Repeat of solution analysis questions in each Etch inspection method. CPTG position is that the overall solution analysis question is adequate.
  • MOU - need to work out the details
  • Review NTGOP for changes needed to secure CP Technologies job audit priority.

13.0CHECKLIST STRATEGIC PLAN – OPEN