Core Group Meeting 7.30pm 22nd March 2017 at Vicarage
Present: The Rev’d Louise Grace; The Rev’d Juliet Horwood; The Rev’d Peter Ingerslev; Caryll Ingerslev, Roger Prouse, Maree Day. Apologies: None
The Meeting opened with prayers, for all involved in the attack on Westminster & Westminster Bridge. Thoughts rested with the deceased, bereaved, injured, bystanders and all the support agencies involved.
- CMS Partner
Discussed revised date of Helen & Maged’s visit to Topsham. JH. Holiday for the couple, so not too many invites being arranged. Helen to preach 13/08/17 @ St M
PI. St M only as St Luke’s has own CMS associate
LG. suggested possible ‘bring & share’ meal in SA on 12th
LG & JH to liaise re any other gathering
JH to speak to Social Committee & DB (think David Batty) Juliet, please advise if incorrect
- Quiet Day
2016 Millhouse. Tiverton
2017 Possibly on Saturday, October or November
LG. to contact (1) Bishop Sarah (2) Andrew Godsall
JH. To contact Millhouse re availability
- Visitation
Agreed to go to Kenton
RP. Katie Gray address to Maree Day
- Sermon & consequence ‘Season of Invitation’ 19/03
LG. Godly play, pm, 1 attending child had brought another child and parent (invited)
LG. had run invitation cards past retired’ s. in favour with exception of Baked Beans
Priests to incorporate into sermons,
LQ. Q how to get invites out there
A (i) Put in pews
(ii) JH. Han dover at dispersal
CI. Natural handover more pro-active
LG. Cultural change, system of spreading the invite 2018
Expand on children’s leaflets + invites to “enjoy the church”
PI. Queried, on Easter hand out
LG. Requires organised lead time, allagreed 2 weeks lead to events
CI. Suggested 1 line emails very effective
Periods.
a)Harvest St M 1st Sunday October
St L 2nd Sunday October
b)All Soulsc) Adventd) Christingle e) Christmas
LG Nicky H to align hospitality team
Advertise in notices as well
Christmas Service cards, letterbox & personal handouts to people of interest
CI. Busy time of year, challenge top get them all out
CI & LG. Print ASAP so can be distributed earlier
- LG. Asked Nicola Holt before she left for Belgium, honest opinion on PCC
NH. Inefficient use of time, too large an agenda
CI. St L fabric encompassed by K & S Harding, reports tabled and circulated before meeting, then re-read and all reviewed again
MD. Report should have proposed action plan at bottom
PI. Reports too long; St M finance report 19 pages, St L finance 1 page.
- LG attended PCC course
MD. Q. who can be co-opted A. only if vacancy in numbers Q. who can speak
LG. recommended reading, new book PCC members essential guide by Mark Tanner,
General discussion on committee principles and actions
LG. Pack of resources. 6 ind cards, 20 mins ea. PCC meeting
CI. Who sets agenda for PCC meeting. Churchwarden, Vicar, Secretary & any other items raised
Time management at PCC meetings
JH. Where is the church going?
LG. Sub committees to sub-manage & provide concise reports to PCC for update
MD. has researched what a Churchwarden should do
- Family Worker Document
Amended version of “Church Family Worker” document available
CI. Where does money come from? Expenditure already more than income
(i)Should the church underpay the Diocesan share instead
(ii)What should fixed reserves be?
Both churches risk averse. What if
Costings & Expenses, LG already secured £2.6k funding
JH. Is there an applicant for the position?
LG. suggestions from Katherine Lydon, would suit established person, possibly retiring teacher, or assistant, Jules or Kristinza type person, not dependant on salary, can accept seasonal variations in workload.
Overall View “Future of the Church”
JH. Needs to do something different LG. Training, don’t threaten, must enthuse
MD. 3 churches working in cohort JH. Not 3 churches, 2 communities, payback not immediate
LG. Methodist, no children, however, St N prepared to commit money for community children
JH. Potential merge of benefice finances in long pictureLG. Visual return will take open-ended time
CI. Open book at St L: St L view, all about St M LG. Countess Wear school asking for more Christian inputs
LG. Take to PCC. Breakout idea, + people to look to talents. St L experiencing growth already in children.
Gen. Needs support of PCC stalwarts, otherwise will not carry through without splitting congregation, focus on supportive individuals
LG. 2 years “pilot” Ring fenced spendNot a graduateJob spec and management fixed
LG. Case study examples
JH. Engaging people not exposed to church
LG. What does position bring to church that we cannot?
JH. Time to connect communityLG. Time & capacity we do not have
JH. Mission statement, committed to LG. Incumbent, cannot do all
Vision Group already big agenda at St Margaret’s
Close. 21:35pm LG. Thanks to all input, The Grace
Date of the next meeting – 19:30pm Wednesday 10thMay at Glasshouse Lane. Countess Wear