Kirkliston Community Council
Minutes
29 - 10 - 13
1. Attendance
S. Lee, D. Buchanan, B. Brooks, J. Henderson, M. Elder, N. Davidson, M. Brechin,
J. Paterson, J. Mackay, P. Hull, Cllrs. N. Work, A. Shields, L. Paterson, P.C. Palin and 11 members of the public
2. Apologies
S. Boyack M.S.P.
3. Election
Cllr. N. Work, as Returning Officer for the Community Council election chaired the meeting initially and thanked S. Lee for his chairmanship over the past seven years, and M. Elder for his work as Secretary as well as his assistance with the election process. He also spoke of how good it was to see new interest in the Community Council. Cllr. Work moved to the election for Chair, Vice-Chair, Secretary and Treasurer of the Council. The result was as follows: -
Chair – D. Buchanan – Proposed by N. Davidson and Seconded by J. Henderson
Vice-Chair – J. Paterson – Proposed by D. Buchanan and Seconded by S. Lee
Secretary – N. Davidson – Proposed by D. Buchanan and Seconded by P. MacLeod
Treasurer – B. Brooks – Proposed by J. Henderson and Seconded by S. Lee
All four nominations were accepted and the above duly elected to their relevant positions
There are four other members of the Community Council – J. Henderson, S. Lee and G. Wells, M. Elder
The following people are representatives for various organisations –
P. Hull – Kirkliston Scouts
J. Mackay – Gala Committee
J. Paterson – K.P.S.A. – It is acceptable under the Constitution for J. Paterson to be both Vice-Chair and a representative for an organisation.
D. Buchanan then took over as Chair and thanked Cllr. N. Work for his work in the role of Returning Officer. He also thanked S. Lee and M. Elder for their past work and thanked the Community Council for putting its trust in him.
4. Minutes of Previous Meeting
These were proposed and seconded by B. Brooks and N. Davidson respectively as being a correct record
5. Matters Arising
· Noticeboard in place and being used
· Allotments are now opened; there are seven of them in use; water main to be installed
· Defibrillator – Scotmid is reliant on the review by the Ambulance Service before making a decision
· Bowling Club Path – the finance is now in position but the Lighting Dept. is still to confirm the lighting standard positions
· Bike Track – A grant is available through Cycling Scotland and other avenues for funding can be explored; planning permission may be needed; worry the track may attract anti-social behaviour and therefore should it go ahead – P.C. Palin stated that the Police could keep an eye on things if the track is set up; KCC was not against the track going ahead if it is possible and J. Paterson will continue to pursue
· Right of Way – D. Buchanan, M. Duncan Access Officer CEC, D. Sinclair Environmental Services Manager West Neighbourhood Team and a representative from Scotways met to discuss this issue. The Scotways rep. declared after extensive checking and collabaration that the right of way was indeed a right of way and will update the Scotways database to reflect this. This decision would be communicated to the Hopetoun reps. at the later meeting with CEC.
Hopetoun Estates met with Inverdunning reps. and the result produced good news regarding the path between Manse Road and Path Brae. Hopetoun Estates and Inverdunninghave reached an agreement which, subject to legals, should be finalised in next few weeks. In the meantime Inverdunning representatives will be in touch with Kirkliston Community Council and adjacent neighbours to discuss short and longer term options relative to the re establishment of the public route.
Inverdunning needs to complete a path now they own it. B. Barrs will discuss options with the neighbours re the right of way, but it may not be the original route. KCC is flexible on the actual route. When the path is constructed it was felt it should be of an adoptable standard with a proper surface and lighting. D. Sinclair CEC is willing to have a temporary surface installed dependant on agreement with the respective parties. Inverdunning will come back to KCC with its decisions.
· Pike’s Pool Fireworks – these are not going ahead due to lack of funding
6. Police Report
· Only nine recorded crimes this month
· P.C. Palin to check on clear-up rates; also to check on ASBO’s; N. Davidson will write to Drumbrae Centre for information on the supervision and the implementation of the ASBO’S
· Tickets have been issued to drivers who offend at the traffic lights on the main street
· Special patrols are going out to monitor anti-social behaviour
· 30mph has been extended beyond Breastmill but traffic is still speeding; Stirling Road is also bad again; P.C. Palin will try to get the Traffic Wardens to carry out speed checks
· As far as P.C. Palin is aware Queensferry Police Station is not closing; from January there will be no front desk staff; however, there will be an extra officer within the shift system
Lothian and Borders Police Report·
Date / 25th September 2013 - 28th September 2013PC11292 Tony Palin
WA03 - Kirkliston/
During the period between the 25/09/2013 and 28/10/2013 there have been 9 recorded crimes in the Kirkliston area. They can be broken down as follows;
1 x Vandalism1 x Assault
1 x Telecommunications Act
1 x Sect 38 Threats
1 x Housebreaking WI
1 x Theft HB
1 x Assault & Robbery
1 x Theft M/V
1 x HB WI
WA03 - Kirkliston
Crimes of note throughout this period
Date / Crime Type / Description10/10/13 / HB WI / Liston Road Kirkliston , Padlock clipped and nothing taken from within.(Linked)
11/10/13 / Theft HB / Shed Broken into items taken from within.(Linked)
29/09/13 / Assault/
Robbery / Alcohol Taken from complainer pushed to the ground and punched - Solved
25/09/13 / Theft M/V / Black Suzuki Motorbike taken while chained up outside house. Enquiries ongoing at this time.
23/09/13 / HB/WI / Patio door forced nothing taken .
No V/A ‘S in the Kirkliston area between the dates stated.
Edinburgh West Statistics
Beat Area / Number of Calls / Area7. Kirkliston Community Council Community Fund
There have been three applications as follows –
· KSQFC - £2720 for strips with the proviso that the Kirkliston Consortium is displayed on the strips
· Kirkliston Gala - £2000 with the proviso that the Consortium is mentioned in advertising; J. Mackay expressed his thanks on behalf of the Gala Committee
· KPSA - £3000 for I-Pads with the proviso that the Consortium is recognised when communicating with parents.
All the above were approved. £20000 has now been paid out and £30000 remains for the next three years.
8. Correspondence
Subject / Email? / Printed Copy? / Forward to CC? / ActionSustainability and Planning / Y / N / Y
Clean up Edinburgh / Y / N / Y / Forwared to Rob Brechin
X38 Bus fares / Y / N / Y
Action Eartwards / Y / N / Y / Forwared to Rob Brechin& Dean Schmit
Litter Campaign / Y / N / Y / Forwared to Rob Brechin
National Planning / Y / N / Y
Lothian Health Board / Y / N / Y / FYI
Defibrellator Site / Y / N / Y / FYI
Health Themed Poster / Y / N / Y / Placed in KCC notice board
ASBOS / Y / N / Y / Awaiting further information
Library Information Poster / Y / Y / N / Placed in KCC notice board
Minutes / Y / Y / N / Draft
Headed Paper / Y / N / N
Public Realms / Y / N / N / FYI
Dog Fouling / Y / N / N / Awaiting further information
Edinburgh ASBOS / Y / N / N / Awaiting further info
Site lorries on Almondhill Road / Y / N / N / FYI
Public Realms Meeting / Y / N / Y / Confirmation of meeting.
ASBOS Ref 1763 / Y / N / Y / Forwared toDB.
Public Realms / Y / N / N / accknowlagement
Draft Minutes / Y / N / N / Draft Update
CEC Environmental Warden / Y / N / N / Warden Update.
POLICE PLAN Ward Community Sessions / Y / N / Y / Placed in KCC notice board
POLICE PLAN Ward Community Sessions / Y / N / N / Duplicate
EACC AGM / Y / N / Y / No action
POLICE PLAN Ward Community Sessions / Y / N / N / Duplicate
Local Planing Policy / Y / N / N
Emergency Road Closure / Y / N / N
Edinburgh Roadworks Ahhead Agreement / y / N / N
PolICE PLAN Ward Community Sessions / Y / N / N / Update
Almond Partnership NP Meeting / Y / N / Y / Minutes forwared to D Buchanan
Sunday 10 Nov X38 Bus Timetable Update / Y / N / Y / Facebook update
Letter to Healthboard / Y / Y / N / Posted Friday 16.30
Dog Fouling / Y / N / N / Warden Update.
Almond Partnership NP Meeting / Y / N / N / Partnership Update
Almond Partnership NP Meeting / Y / N / N / Duplicate
Natural Heritage Newsletter / Y / N / N / Duplicate
APSE Member consultation / Y / N / Y / Forwarded To D Buchanan
Queens baton Relay / Y / N / Y / Forwarded To D Buchanan
Almond NP development plan scheme / Y / N / Y / Forwarded To D Buchanan
Clean-up Edinburgh campaign / Y / N / y / Forwarded To Rob Brechin
Road Closure / Y / N / N / Notice board.
Almond neighbourhood Partnership Meeting / Y / N / Y / Forwarded To D Buchanan
Consultation Community Empowerment / Y / N / Y / Forwarded To D Buchanan
Consultation Community Empowerment / Y / N / Y / Forwarded to members
Winter weather consultation / Y / N / Y / Steve Lee to note in Facebook.
9. Hogmanay Bus Service
N43 – At first this service was not recommended but following questioning this decision was reversed with the proviso that more advertising be done so that better use was made of it. The three elected members and M. Elder worked to get this situation resolved.
The services in rest of Edinburgh are run by Lothian Buses, sponsored by Diageo and it is wondered why this could not have been extended to the Almond Ward.
There is a meeting on 11th November regarding Transport in Rural West Edinburgh – D. Buchanan and M. Elder will attend.
A complaint was raised about the bus route in Kirkliston going through the new development and a request was made for another bus stop near the traffic lights on Queensferry Road – this would resolve the problem of the distance from the Bus Gate at present.
Clarification will be sought at the above meeting about the tendering re Horsburgh – it was thought the tender would continue until July 2014 when the trams start, but another viewpoint was that the tender would go out in November this year.
10. Public Realms
Safety is the priority regarding the above works and there will be a meeting on 12th November at 6.00pm starting at the Library. M. Borthwick CEC will be in attendance. N. Davidson to write with details. CEC will have to contact the Consortium to let them know what is changing in order to keep them onside with our thoughts. £250000 has been paid to the CEC by the Consortium for these works.
11. Planning
Nursery Extension – objections have been raised re the use of wooden cladding if it is not kept in good condition and the use of the play space which is not being replaced. The School Growth Budget is paying for this extension. Section 75 money earmarked for the School is only for the Primary School and not the Nursery School
Planning Applications / Decisions – October 2013
Part One: Applications List
Use of existingresidential dwelling
(gatehouse at rear
access) as educational
accommodation for
horticultural academy
for a maximum of 6
students. The course
will run 3 days a week
between the hours of
10am and 4pm.
at
Carlowrie Castle Lodge
Boathouse Bridge
Road
Kirkliston
EH29 9ES
13/03241/CLP / Mr Andrew
Marshall.,
70/3 Evelyn
Gardens
London
SW7 3BQ / delegated
decision / Registered
on:
25/09/2013
Comments
Due by
16.10.2013 / Francis Newton
0131 529 6435
francis.newton@
edinburgh.gov.uk
Community
Council: Kirkliston
Other Consents
and Certificates
Convert existing domestic garage to form room and creation of new entrance porch.
at
46 Eilston Loan
Kirkliston
EH29 9FL
13/04017/FUL / Mr David Newton,
46 Eilston Loan
Kirkliston
Edinburgh
EH29 9FL / delegated decision / Registered on:
26/09/2013
Comments Due by
24.10.2013 / Rihards Sobols
0131529 3543
Community Council: Kirkliston
Householder Developments
Alter and extend existing nursery school.
at
Kirkliston Community Centre And Nursery
16 - 18 Queensferry Road
Kirkliston
EH29 9AQ
13/04067/FUL / Smith Scott Mullan Associates.
FAO Jamie Bateman
378 Leith Walk
Edinburgh
EH7 4PF
/ The City Of Edinburgh Council.,
FAO Mr Peter Almand
Waverley Court
4 East Market Street
Edinburgh
EH8 8BG / delegated decision / Registered on:
27/09/2013
Comments Due by
28.10.2013 / David McFarlane
0131 529 3512
Community Council: Kirkliston
Other Developments - Local
Part Two: Decision List - N/A
12. Councillors’ Report
· Cllr. L. Paterson spoke about the change at Queensferry Police Station as mentioned by P.C. Palin. She added that there would be a rotation of officers attending the KCC meetings. There would also be an emphasis on Community Policing
· The Neighbourhood Partnership is looking to how it can move forward and be relevant to the communities it encompasses. D. Buchanan attending a meeting on 30th October.