Meeting Minutes of WG D4
May 20, 2009
Kansas City, MO

Lane Garrett, Chairman, opened the meeting with introductions. There were 14 members and 7 guests present at this meeting.

  1. Obligatory Statement - Lane presented the obligatory slides from IEEE regarding patents in standards and inappropriate topics for working group meetings.
  1. Minutes/Agenda – The Atlanta 2009 working group meeting minutes and the agenda of the Kansas City meeting were approved.
  1. Arc Flash Update – Marcia Eblen provided a brief update on Arc Flash testing required by NESC. APRI is conducting the tests and the final report can be purchased for $30,000. Marcia will provide summary of work completed on the same subject by Standard IEEE 1584 to the WG members
  1. Assignments
  • Marcia Eblen will write additions to the body of the standard regarding best practices of installing TPG’s with reference to the Annex X
  • Phil Atwater will edit the Annex X to reflect the changes proposed by Marcia
  • Dan Laird will rewrite section 5.4.2 on Grounding Switches
  1. Review of Draft 2
  • Reviewed Phil’s comments on sections 3,4,5. The sections 6,8 were not reviewed by the WG at this meeting. Lane asked the WG to read Phil’s comments on sections 6 and 8, and comment during the internal ballot.
  1. Proposed Time Line
  • Have complete Draft 3 including all changes by the end of August, 2009
  • Conduct internal ballot in September, 2009
  • Submit the standard for the ballot after October 2009 meeting in Nashville.

Please submitall assignments by July 15, 2009 to the secretary at , so that the secretary will have time to prepare the next draft for the internal ballot.

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The date and time of the fall meeting in Nashville will be announced.

Best Regards

Martin Havelka

Secretary, WG D4

7.Attendance

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Abdallah, Hanna

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Arizona Public Service Co, Phoenix, AZ,

Arnot Stan

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Toronto, ON, Canada,

Atwater Philip

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Bureau of Reclamation, Denver, CO,

Barnes, Thomas

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Allen & Hoshall, Inc. Nashville, TN,

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American Transmission Company, Madison, WI,

Brown Steven

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Memphis Light Gass & Water, Memphis, TN,

Cain James /

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Stanley Consultants, Inc., Phoenix, AZ,

Chadbourne Chris

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FCI USA, Inc., NH,

Chan K.S.

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Bechtel, Huston, TX,

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Bechtel, Huston, TX,

Chisholm William /

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Kinetriccs, Toronto, Canada,

Darkenwald Greg /

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NorthWestern Energy, Butte, MT,

Denbrock Frank /

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D&A Consulting Engineers, Jackson, MI,

Dick Eugene /

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Electric Power Diagnostics, Toronto, Canada,

Eblen Marcia

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Pacific Gas & Electric, San Ramon, CA,

Engmann, Gary /

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Burns & McDonnell, Leadwood, KS,

Garrett, Lane /

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Alabama Power Company, Birmingham, AL,

Greenfield, Steve /

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ERICO, West Palm Beach, FL,

Havelka, Martin /

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ERICO, Solon, OH.

Kahanek William /

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Bluerbonnet Electric Coop, Giddings, TX,

Keil Rich

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Commonwealth Associates Inc., Dayton, OH,

Kelley, Dave

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Salt River Project, Phoenix, AR,

Kollar Allen

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FirstEnergy Corp., Akron, OH,

Larid Donald

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Southern California Edison, Rosemead, CA,

Love, Allen

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Georgia Power Co., Forest Park, GA,

Marryman Jeffrey

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ABB Inc., Releigh, NC,

Middlecamp Steven

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Florida Power & Light Co., Juno B., FL,

Nowell, R. S. (Bob)

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Georgia Power Company, Atlanta, GA,

O’Donnell, Edward

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Baltimore Gass & Electric, Baltimore, MD,

Palmer-Buckle, Peter

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Burns & McDonnell, Kennesaw, GA,

Patel Shashi

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NEETRAC, Forest Park, GA,

Perkins Samuel

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Bonneville Power Admin., Vancouver, Canada,

Polak Janusz

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Hydro One, Toronto, Canada,

Rockwell Bruce

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American Transmission Company, Boonton, NJ,

Sheh Will

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TectoWeld Inc., Torrance, CA,

Stidham Curt

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Harger Lightning & Grounding, Grayslake IL,

Story Brian

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Entergy, Kenner, LA,

Wallace Keith

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Alabama Power Co., Birmingham, Al,

Watkins Diane

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David Evans& Associates, Phonix, AZ,

Sharifnia, Hamid

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Pacific Corp, Portland, OR,

Boling Dale

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ERICO International, Inc., Solon, Oh,

Herman koch /

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Siemens,

Giang Tran /

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Entergy,

Bernards Louis /

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Burns & McDonnell, Leadwood, KS,

Haahr Charles /

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Sega Inc., Olathe, KS,

Baroc, Radoslav

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GE, Oakbrook Terrace, IL,

Noori Mike /

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Custom Engineering Solutions, ing

King, Kyle

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K+R Consulting, Lenox, MA,

Evans Jim

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PES,

Farmer Brian

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PG&E,

Bashirian Hassein

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Georgia Power Company, Atlanta, GA,

Smith Dough

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SEFCOR, Inc., Griffin, GA,

White, Ken

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Georgia Transmission Corp., Tucker, GA,

Clelland Randy

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BC Hydro, Burnably, BC,

DeCosta, Dennis /

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Commonwealth Associates Inc., Jackson, MI,

Randolph John /

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PG&E

Ante Gragory /

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SCE

Giang Tran /

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Entargy

Wong Alexander

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Hydro One Networks Inc., Jackson, MI,

Wengerter Don

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Wisconsin Public Service,

Russell Don

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Progress Energy,

Norri Mike

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Custom Engineering Solutions, mike @cengs.com

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