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Associated Teachers TV programme

Using Museums: Ancient Worlds

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National Museums Liverpool

operates across eight sites,

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and is the largest national museum

outside of London.

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Each year, 150,000 students take

part in flexible education sessions,

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covering themes

such as ancient civilisations,

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natural history,

conservation and art.

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Year 7 students from Weatherhead

High School in the Wirral

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come to the museum for a day

of Egyptian-themed activities.

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(man) I'd already decided

it was gonna be an Egyptology trip

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to LiverpoolMuseum.

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Why Liverpool? Because it's close,

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because if it's an enclosed area,

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it's easier to manage

in a lot of ways.

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You can imagine, if you go on

a history trip which is a sort of...

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We went to one recently in Dudley,

which was an open-air village.

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It's very difficult

to keep track of them -

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where they are,

where they've gone and so on,

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but in LiverpoolMuseum

it's all enclosed,

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and it's an easier venue

to cope with generally.

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The purpose of going to the museum

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was actually as an introduction

to the key stage 3 history.

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They've actually already covered

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the Egyptian period in key stage 2,

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but when they arrive here in year 7,

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we like to introduce them

to historical skills

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of research, note taking,

presentation, that sort of thing,

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and it's a sort of a good

introduction to key stage 3.

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(narrator) The trip begins

in the multimedia education centre.

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(woman) The idea

of "Death on the Nile"

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is to bring the world of the ancient

Egyptian mummification to life.

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We try to make the show as fun

and as entertaining as possible,

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but obviously we have to be factual

and truthful to the times.

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The mummy that you can see behind me

is a dummy we had specially made,

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and during the show,

we invite members of the audience

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to take part

in mummifying the body itself,

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so they help us to wrap it up

and take the brain out of the nose

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and remove the organs.

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Hopefully, it brings it more to life

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and it gives a greater resonance

for the young people

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when they go back to the school.

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Each group, you're gonna take

pictures as you go through the day.

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I'm not gonna tell you what to take.

You're gonna do the report, right?

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When you get

back to school tomorrow,

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you're gonna have one period

to do the PowerPoint presentation

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of what you've learned

and how you've learned, all right?

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Not just what's in the gallery,

but how you've learned, all right?

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We wanted it to be

a sort of history and media thing,

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so I sort of stressed at the outset

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that I wanted them

to do a presentation,

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which would be done

in school the following day,

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so that they would have to prepare

materials during their visit,

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they took cameras, and then it was

to be made into a presentation,

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which was gonna be presented

to their peers on the following day.

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It's important to explain

the purpose of the visit to them,

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so that from the outset, they

don't think it's just a day out,

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that they will be in uniform, they

will be representing the school,

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and we will expect them to learn

and develop skills on the day,

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which they can use later on.

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(woman) The idea that you go

to the museum to collect information

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and to find out about a topic,

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in this case, the Egyptians,

so that when you're back at school,

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you can do a presentation

to children younger than you

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or children in other year groups,

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is a really good idea and

could be used to shape any visit.

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And certainly,

our experience of museum education

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is that if the children

have a clear task,

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which can help shape

their collecting of information

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and their observation,

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that really does produce

very effective learning outcomes.

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I think we add value

to the school curriculum.

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We add value to creative learning

and thinking for young people,

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creative teaching for teachers.

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We think our expertise, creativity,

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the fact that we're not bound by the

national curriculum in what we do,

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we can find new ways

to create learning.

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It's the oldest thing that

you've ever touched, those things.

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(Carol) It's really important

that we understand

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and listen to teachers' needs.

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They are the experts in the field.

They know their pupils.

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What we've tried to do,

as an organisation,

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is develop previsit resources -

resources that teachers can download

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before they visit the museum,

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resources that they can use during

their visit with their class group,

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and postvisit resources,

follow-up resources,

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that they can use

back in the classroom.

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That means that the learning

takes place before, during and after

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your visit

to National Museums Liverpool.

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(teacher) Have you had a go

of touching the materials?

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Looking at different artefacts from

the jars which they put organs in,

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and how wide they were, like, each

animal, and which went in which,

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and different objects,

and matching up to what it meant,

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and which order it came in.

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When you're reading it in a book,

it doesn't really go in very much,

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cos you're made to read it,

but when you watch something,

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it's action, and you're being shown

it, it's visual, so it's better.

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You're going to be looking

at the gods and their attributes.

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(Gareth) The value of museum trips

is bringing the whole thing to life.

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You can show people

pictures of mummies

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and Death Valley

and all the rest of it,

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but if they actually can experience

it by touching it and feeling it

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and holding the thing,

that is just an amazing experience,

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and that is really the value of it,

in my opinion.

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(Carol) I think that primary schools

are our bread-and-butter audiences.

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Primary schools visit us more

regularly than secondary schools.

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The secondary-school community is a

target development audience for us.

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The challenge undoubtedly...

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centres around

the ability of secondary schools

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to visit on a regular basis.

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The emphasis is undoubtedly on

academic achievement and attainment,

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and the best place to set that

is within a classroom environment,

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but I think we've got to find

new ways again of aiding that,

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and I think schools themselves

need to think more creatively

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and more diversely about

the support that we can give them,

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and undoubtedly, sort of post-14,

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we want to encourage the young

person to visit us independently.

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The problems we have,

I would suggest,

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when we think about

organising visits,

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are really the obvious ones,

starting with transport,

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with taking children out of school

in a secondary school,

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therefore missing

a number of lessons,

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most of which are unrelated

to the purpose of the visit.

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So I think we're at a time

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where we are all going to

have to think very creatively

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of ways in which these

sort of active links can happen.

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Far better, in many ways,

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is bringing museums

and their resources into school.

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(narrator) Creative thinking

has already begun,

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with the museum forming

a partnership with local schools

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through the

Excellence in Cities programme.

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(Carol) National Museums Liverpool

and Weatherhead

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have had a long-standing,

ongoing relationship

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that has been borne out of,

initially,

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individual teachers

within the schools.

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The deputy head Martin Boston

has made regular contact with us,

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picking up on opportunities that

he's heard of through the press,

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or looking on our webpages.

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We are aware that there is

a huge resource very close by.

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They are also aware, as she told us,

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that that resource doesn't

always connect with schools,

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and in particular

with secondary schools,

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where the logistics

of making those connections

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are sometimes

impossible to deal with,

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but I think we all agree

that there is a huge potential,

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and we still want to explore ways

of developing those links.

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We've been able to forge an ongoing

relationship with Weatherhead,

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where we've been able to support

some of their school developments,

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and also invite them to participate

in special programmes we've run.

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They've been

a fabulous support for us,

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because they've piloted programmes,

supported initiatives,

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given us direct feedback,

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and it's been of great benefit

to all, I would say.

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What we're gonna do now is

we're gonna go out of the museum,

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and out onto the public roads

and walk to the Conservation Centre.

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Now, obviously, we have to have a

quick talk about health and safety.

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When we go out, you've got to

get yourselves into twos in a line.

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Right? So get with your mates,

and you walk in twos.

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Now, when you get to traffic lights,

common sense, please.

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Don't rush across without us.

We all keep together,

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and there shouldn't be a problem.

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(narrator) The Conservation Centre

offers the chance to learn about

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preserving museum artefacts.

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Use the tip of the brush.

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That really is Egyptian papyrus.

it's the only place you can get it.

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We had that imported from Egypt for

you to do some hieroglyphic work on.

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(narrator) At the end, they produce

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a personalised memento

of their day at the museum.

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(man) Where possible, it's good

if the children take something home,

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and I don't mean something

that they bought in the museum shop.

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It could be something simple, like

a badge or something we give them,

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but how much better if the children

have made it themselves?

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So in Egyptian connections, they

have learned about hieroglyphics,

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they've learned about papyrus,

they've painted their own cartouche.

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It's a bookmark. They take it home

and may have it in 30 years' time.

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J-o-n-i-e-c-e.

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Joniece.

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(narrator) In school, the pupils

put their knowledge into action.

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(Gareth) You haven't time for that.

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I'm interested in what you learned

yesterday and how you learned it.

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Not just what it was,

but how you did it.

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Any questions?

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Well, the follow-up work,

in my opinion,

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should be done

as soon as possible after the visit.

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This isn't always possible,

I realise,

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but the day after, the day

after that, is really the ideal.

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When they're on the trip,

they should be working towards

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presenting something

in the days to come,

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so they have got a focus.

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And I think that the presentation

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should reflect some

of what they've learned on the day,

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possibly not just all about

ancient Egypt or whatever it is,

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but how they've actually learned.

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Well, we've got the opening slide,

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and then we have our photos

about the "Death on the Nile" show.

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And then we've got

the Canopic jars and the textiles

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and the kohl pots and amulets.

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Sometimes you'll forget

what you've done,

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and when you look at the pictures,

you go, "Oh, I remember doing that."

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They gave us fun things to do

to learn about it,

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rather than just giving us

a book just to read about it.

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It was interesting. I never knew

that history could be so fun,

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cos normally you expect it to be

quite boring when you go to museums.

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(girls) Welcome to our presentation

about our trip yesterday

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to the WorldLiverpoolMuseum

and Conservation Centre.

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(Gareth) This is a very good class,

a high-ability class,

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and they were exceptional,

in my opinion.

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They used all the information, or

nearly all the information they had.

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They had too much information.

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They had to sort out what they were

gonna put in those presentations.

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And we set them a deadline.

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Their presentations - high quality.

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Everybody took part in them.

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Nobody sat around

having done nothing.

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If they didn't say

something on the presentation,

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they certainly

wrote a script for it.

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You've got to take

all your things with you.

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I hope you've learned

a lot from that.

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You've been absolutely fantastic

pupils throughout,

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so make sure

you use the information...

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There's been pressure recently

on teachers not to take trips out,

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because of the health and safety

angle, and so on,

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and I think it really

restored my confidence, really.

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It made me realise that we should

do more of this sort of thing.

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Although it's a hassle for

the teachers, and a lot of effort,

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it's worth it in the end and you can

see the pupils really respond to it.

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And that's what we're here for

in the end, isn't it?

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Visiontext Subtitles: Sarah Johnston

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