March 2007doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0346r0
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Wireless Network Management
Ad-Hoc Meeting Minutes
January and February 2007
Date: 2007-03-11
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Pat R. Calhoun / Cisco Systems, Inc. / 170 W. Tasman Dr.
San Jose, CA95134 / +1 408 853-5269 /
Submissionpage 1Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
March 2007doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0346r0
1.January30th, 2007
Attendees: Bruce Kramer, Fujio Watanabe, Dorothy Stanley, Ganesh Venkatesan, Emily Qi, Richard Payne, Pat Calhoun, Allan Thomson
Discussion:
1)8 remaining items in comment resolution spreadsheet 1615r09
2)Item 359 change resolution to “Counter” with comment resolution, normative text changes provided in 0052r3, Allan provided in London
3)Item 232 Allan to work with Bob O’Hara on what needs to be fixed
4)Item 96 Dorothy will prepare text.
5)Item 251 Ganesh to generate list of missing MIB attributes/values. Then we need to assign owners to add text for missing items.
6)Document 0093r2 was reviewed that resolves Items 244, 22, 241, 284. 0093r3 will fix minor error found in 7.3.2.37.4.
7)Next conference call in 2 weeks, Pat to send an email confirming call on 13th Feb.
2.February 13rd, 2007
Attendees: Dorothy Stanley,Pat Calhoun,Ganesh Venkatesan, Allan Thomson,Emily Qi,
Discussion:
Issue 251. Ganesh took an AI to elaborate on his comment. He recently sent an e-mail to Dorothy to try to explain his issue. This has to do with some of the TGv reports. He believes these request/response frames should have a MIB entry in Annex D (TGk has something similar). TGk has tables defined for all of their report tables. This means TGv needs something similar. The list of missing items are: Event, Presence, Diagnostics, Roaming Management and FBMS- both request/response. Allan Thomson can handle Presence and FBMS. We will try to find a volunteer to handle the rest of the elements - Ganesh would be willing to try for at least one of the other ones.
Issue 96. Dorothy has posted document 11-07/0234r0. The comment was that table 26, list of element IDs, needed to be consistent with the format TGma,D08.0. Dorothy will post anr1 that addresses some issues she found. The plan is to vote on this issueat the March meeting. There was discussion about the wireless management capability length was variable to allow for extending the field in the future. We need to change figure v16 as a table, and use 'M' bit. Emily will put together a submission for text. Document 11-07/0234r1 will use 'n' for length (variable). Allan asked whether Figure v80 should change length from 5 to 16, but the text shows 5-16.The text needs to clarify that unused fields need to be set to zero.
Issue 232. Allan sent Alex (copied Emily) proposed text. Alex agreed with minor modifications, and that it would be included in the next version of the resolution spreadsheet.
Issue 20. This issue suggests that a sentence be removed. However, the October meeting minutes stated that we needed proposed text to handle this issue. The suggested resolution was to remove lines 10-11. Emily will handle it.
Issue 77. Emily already provided normative text, and has already been implemented in D0.8. So far we do not have a table provided. We want a similar rules table v79a in TGk. Allan will provide text for table v56, and a paragraph - based on draft 0.8.
Issue 293. This issue will be covered by Emily's proposed text. The lenth of the wireless capabilities bit will removed from 11-07/-234r1, and be inserted in Emily's text.
Issue 38. Dorothy is vounteering to put together additional text. She will implement what's there, as the group approved the changes.
The next TGv conference call is scheduled for 2/27 at noon eastern. The call details will be the same as today's, but I will send a reminder to the list prior to the call.
3.February 27th, 2007
Attendees: Pat Calhoun, Allan Thomson, Emily Qi
Emily: Status update of D0.08 review. Emily has only received review comments from Allan Thomson and Dorothy Stanley.
D0.09 will be created and currently only addresses editorial defects she has received from Allan and Dorothy's review.
11-07/0123r2 - Dorothy's normative text proposal. This text was approved in November, but one of the comments is marked "cannot do" in D0.08. At the previous teleconference, Dorothy stated she would provide text at the next meeting, but since it was approved by the TG, it needs to also be included in D0.09. Emily would then fix it in the subsequent version using the text Dorothy will submit at the March session.
Emily wanted to know whether she should convert to Adobe. Pat told Emily to check with Bob since in the past he has recommended to wait until the last possible moment to convert. Emily is worried about the task group's ability to copy/paste, and therefore be effective. Pat indicated that ultimately, this is the editor's decision, not the task group, so whatever makes her most comfortable is what she should do.
Allan Thomson: At the last call, following Ganesh's comment on the MIB,Allan took an action item to create an example of the MIB for presence and FBMS. He looked at what was done for both 11k and 11ma, and it was not clear what was intended to be in the MIB. Allan spoke to various people at Cisco, and his conclusion is that TGv only needs a minimal MIB definition, such as what options are provided (e.g., Presencesupport),and any statistics (e.g., counter of FBMS request). The general idea of the MIB duplicating all of the functions in 802.11v is not something we should do. Emily agreed with this. Allan wanted to make sure that Ganesh was ok with this, but since he's not on the call, Emily will ask him. Emily stated that leaving it simple at this stage is ok, and we can address this in the letter ballot phase if need be. Allan will draft normative text for the simple modifications for the March session.
Submissionpage 1Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.