MINUTES
FOREST FIRES COMMISSION
MEETING Lugano, Suisse
2.April 2014 – 3.April 2014
Participants of CTIF commission wildland fires:
Country: / Name:1. / Croatia / Ante Sanader
2. / Greece / Nikos Sachinidis
Croatia / Milivoj Taslak
Croatia / Mario Starčević
3. / Suisse / Ryser Daniele
4. / Serbia / Vukosavljević Milutin
Serbia / Jajić Dragan
5. / Norway / Carina Halvorsen
Greece / Ntasiou Zisoula
6. / France / Robert Bardo
France / Jean Marc Bedogni
Not present:
Hungary / László Barta-VámosCroatia / Slavko Tucaković
Norway / Dag Botnen
Finland / Petri Lyttinen
Denmark / Kim Lintrup
Denmark / Nanett Mathiesen
Czech Republic / Jan Pecl
Cyprus / Andreas Andreu
Bulgaria / Georgi Gatev
Portugal / Mara Jeronimo
Sweden / Hansen Rickard
Austria
Germany
Other present: Wehrli Laurent, Aron Ghiringhelli, Marco Conedera
Item 1Opening: Nicos Sachinidis opened the meeting
President of the Suisse Firefighting Association Laurent Wehrli
-Thanks for coming
-Suisse is also in danger of forest fires, especially the South part of Suisse
-Important to be open to share information and knowledge
-Suisse and Lichtenstein Suisse Firefighting Association, 100.000 volunteers, 1.500 professionals in big cities
-20-58 age professional fire-fighters, volunteers active till 60
-Education is the same for professional and volunteers
-Mixed financing
Item 2 Presentations
Marco Conedera: Research on forest fires
-Systematic approach to collecting data (establishing data base)
-More than 100 year old data
-Empirical approach
-Approach to wildland fire must be quick, preventive burning is forbidden
Item 2 Aron Ghiringelli: Forest fires in Ticino
-140.000 ha forests, 50 % of area of Ticino (1100 urban fire-fighters, 350 mountain fire-fighters, 8 private companies with buckets)
-Wildland-urban interface
-Buffer zones around houses
-Effects of forest fires are erosion, stones get mobile, precivitation does not go into the soil a few years after the fire
-You can lose the regeneration of the forest, worst-case: degeneration
-Damages are partly refunded by cantonal fund, insurance companies and people who caused the fire
-Forest service taking care of the “forest cycle” (suppression, management, prevention, organization)
-Convention with the broadcast service
-Avoid big fires
-Strategy of risk reduction
-Local government finances forest-fire-fighters
Item 3Roll call of members
Presentation of Greece (Ntasiou Zisoula) in PowerPoint:
-She works in coordination center 199 in Athens (Forest Fires Coordination Center)
-14 regional centers
-17 Canadaira (6 CL 415), 30 minutes time of intervention, 10 helicopters (S 64, Mi8…)
-Unique data base about forest fires (ongoing, partial control, control, closed)
-142 per day maximum number of fires, in 2013. it was 93
-Maximum burnt areain 2000. and 2007.
Presentation of Norway (Carina Halvorsen) in PowerPoint:
-Describes Telemark volunteer Forest Fires Units
-Regular exercise and education
-Local governments finance with 1,5 NOKper inhabitant these units
-Experience from France and Greece
-ELS team supporting in management support
-Dry extinguishing methods
-Wet extinguishing methods, water dams
-Coordination with helicopters and air-clubs for monitoring /110 flyhours, additional 1200 NOK per h/
-Using dogs to identify the burnt area
-E-learning used for education
-110 center for media
-27.1.2014. 1.500 ha burnt, jumping” over on far places, many people evacuated, winter without rain and snow-very dry)
Presentation of Croatia (Mario Starčević) in PowerPoint:
He presented the Holistic IPA-project
Presentation of France (Robert Bardo) in PowerPoint:
-Public institution of South France with 41 organizations- defence zones- working on prevention and suppression of natural risks (Ceren, Pont-cartography, EC ASC- education)
-3 levels of coordination
-National references for forest fires, guide for aeroplanes, standard operativ procedure for extinguishing fires, guidelines for education
-Anticipation: 6 levels of risk; by high risk the fire-fighters leave their stations, aircrafts make patrolling (tracker) and attack immediately; 5 air-bases with 11 trackers, Canadair (6.000 l) and 2 Duss (8.000 l)
-Training in ECASC Valabre, 5 levels: firefighter, leader of 4 firefighters-1 engine, other 3 levels are educated in fire-fighting school (4 vehicles, coordination with aeroplanes, 80 h); chief of sector, leading 1 hour, 80 hours education; Main chief, 3 hours, 400 ha, monitoring from air, selecting forces; 10 days lasts each training, generally 3 sectors;
-computer simulation: simultaneous 12 people; educated people from all over the world (Portugal, USA, GB)
-Symbols same in France, Italy has same symbols
Presentation of GreeceNikos Sachinidisin PowerPoint:
Firefighting aeroplanes for forest fires)
Item 4CTIF – preparing activities of forest fire seminar in Belgrade
-18. 9. General Assembly of CTIF, 19.9. forest- fires seminar in Belgrade.
-Themes for seminar 19.9. (9-12 h)- each presentation should last maximum 15 minutes:
-France: Education for forest fires
-France: Caususes of forest fires
-Suisse: Forest fire-fighting in alpine conditions
-Greece: Role of volunteer fighters in forest fires
-Serbia: Fire prevention (Serbian forests)
-Croatia: Analyzing hydrometheorological data during big fires
Daniele willcontact Russia and Italy, if they are willing to give also presentations, R. Barto will contactPortugal
Detailed program of conference should be finished till end of May 2014.
Visits:
- fire brigade Novaggio
- Alarm center Lugano
- fire brigade Lugano
- logistical center for forest fires Lugano
- water supply Ticino
Mario Starčević