May 2008 doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/0571r1
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2008-05-12
Author(s):
Name / Company / Address / Phone / email
Stephen McCann / Nokia Siemens Networks Roke Manor / Old Salisbury Lane, Romsey, Hampshire, SO51 0ZN, UK / +44 1794 833341 /
IEEE 802.11 Plenary Meeting – Session #109
Hyatt Regency Riverfront, Jacksonville, Florida, USA
May 11th-16th, 2008
IEEE 802 Wireless Opening Plenary, Monday 12th May 2008
Note: These are copied from the minutes 15-08-0285-00-0000-wg-minutes-from-Jacksonville-may08.doc
Monday, 12 May 2008
8:15 802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.20, 802.21, and 802.22 Chairs called the joint meeting to order. IEEE 802.15 attendance is included as Annex A (15-08-0285)
Announcements:
· Session is being run by “Face to Face Events Inc”
· Attendance will be collected via the IMAT
Straw Poll of new attendees: 11
IEEE patent policy
802.15 WG chair displayed the five slides explaining patent policy and informed the attendees that additional information could be found on the patcom web site.
Chair asked participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard, there were no responses.
8:23 Financial report by John Barr, (15-08-263-00)
· 14 Mar 08 balance was $222,547.51
· 11 May 08 balance was $197,911.85
o Domain name registration -$20.00
· Taipei status:
o 361 attendees
o Net deficit $24,636
· Jacksonville
o Budget estimate $216,200
o Registration Income: $231,570
8:31 Wireless announcements:
Wireless Network Updates by Rick Alfvin (15-08-283-01)
· Newton.events.ieee.org (docs and attendance links)
· IEEE.1x is available
IMAT by Christina Sahr ()
· To get an IEEE web account http://www.ieee.org/go/create_web_account and follow directions
· Enter activity profile in myProject
· Register with IMAT
· Uses IEEE web account
· Register with IMAT once per week
8:30 Review Interim meetings
· 7-12 Sept Hilton Waikoloa Village, Big Island
· 18-23 January 2009, Hyatt Century Plaza, Los Angeles, CA, USA,
· 10-15 May 2009, Fairmont Queen Elizabeth, Montreal, CA
· 20-25 September 2009, Hilton Waikoloa Village, Big Island, HI, USA
· 7-22 Jan or 16-21 May 2010 Pacific Rim location
· 12-17 Sep 2010, Hilton Waikoloa Village, Big Island, HI, USA
8:35 Task Group Updates
· 802.11 (Agenda – 08/449r2)
WNG: call for topics – multi-radio coexistence
VHT SG: working on PAR and 5C
TGaa: Video Transport Settings is just beginning
IMT adhoc: planning through 2008
Other TGs: comment resolution
802.15
WNG: one presentation
TG3c: completing drafting towards letter ballot
TG4c: letter ballot completed with 100% approval
TG4d: completing draft towards letter ballot in July
TG4e: defining terms and draft CFP
TG5: Going to recirculation
TG6 (BAN): finalizing application matrix
RFID SG: move process forward
TerraHz IG: looking for opportunities
VLC SG: defining basic elements in PAR
NAN IG: just started looking at Neighborhood Area Networking
802.18
· 60 GHz
· Hearing Aid change
· Draft CFC for Q4 ITU
802.20
Review and resolve sponsor ballot comments from recirculation
Development of PARs for future projects of 802.20
802.21
Wrapping up comment resolutions from Sponsor Ballot
Two new SGs security signaling in handover, multi radio power conservation management
802.22
· Recirc on 802.22.1
8:51 joint meeting adjourned
IEEE 802.11 Opening Plenary, Monday 12th May 2008
Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell) opened the meeting at 09:08 ET
Jon Rosdahl CSR
Adrian Stephens Intel
Stephen McCann Nokia Siemens Networks GmbH & Co KG
There are 211 voting members of IEEE 802.11
13 potential
37 nearly
153 aspirants
1. Attendance
1.1. The chair then asked for those attending for the first time, 3 responded out of a total of 103 people in the room.
1.2. Attendance (together with affiliations) at this meeting is shown in Annex A.
2. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-08-0449r2)
2.1. The graphic has been updated since yesterday with several meeting slot changes.
2.2. Chair: Any modifications
2.3. Q: Can I move the TGy closing report on Wednesday
2.4. Chair: Yes, of course.
2.5. No objection to the approval of the agenda
3. March 2008 Minutes (11-08-0428r0)
3.1. Review and approve joint minutes from the Orlando, March 2008 meeting.
3.2. Q: Please can we change the end date to 21st March.
3.3. Chair: Yes.
3.4. Chair: Any objection to approving the March 2008 minutes with this change.
3.5. Following neither discussion nor dissent these minutes were approved by unanimous consent.
3.6. Minutes will be revised to 11-08-0428r1
4. Financials (11-08-0573r0)
4.1. Jon Rosdahl (Vice-Chair)
4.2. Presented various issues with the current treasury.
4.3. No questions
5. Policies and Procedures
5.1. http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
5.2. The vice-chair (Jon Rosdahl) presented the P&Ps including the new PatCom (Patent Policy) highlights slide. Please note that these PatCom slides were updated in March 2008.
5.2.1. Please review these slides for all current procedures and information together with:
5.2.1.1. Patent FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf
5.2.1.2. LoA Form - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf
6. Call for essential Patents
6.1. The vice chair (Jon Rosdahl) called for essential patents and there were none.
6.2. No questions or statements were made.
6.3. Chair: Please note that all these rules only apply to groups with PARs
7. Affiliation, Anti-Trust and Ethics
7.1. The following slides were presented by the WG chair:
7.1.1. Affiliation
7.1.1.1. If you do not provide your affiliation then your rights can be withdrawn. Please see: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html for further information.
7.1.2. Anti-Trust
7.1.2.1. Please note the following anti-trust statements http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf
7.1.3. Ethics
7.1.3.1. Please note the following ethics statements http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/about/CoE_poster.pdf
7.2. No questions about any of this.
8. Interim Meetings
8.1. The next meeting is in the Hyatt Regency, Denver, Colorado in July 2008. Registration is now available: : http://ieee802.facetoface-events.com/sessions/50/index.php
9. Note about past WG chair
9.1. Chair: please note that Stuart Kerry is not able to attend this week. There was going to a presentation which will now be postponed until July 2008.
10. Officer Appointments (11-08-0568r0)
10.1. Various TG/SG appointments will be made later this week.
10.2. Chair: However, I would like to appoint various other positions as stated in 11-08-0568r0
10.3. Chair: Please note that there are also a few new activities this week, so that some strange terms will be present in the agenda. However, some of these new committees are required to move forward:
10.3.1. JTC1 (Jesse Walker)
10.3.2. IETF (Dorothy Stanley, although nothing this week)
10.3.3. 16 L (Dorothy Stanley, IEEE 802.16 co-existence liaison)
10.3.4. IMT-A (now assigned to Darwin Engwer)
10.4. Any objection to any of these appointments
10.5. None seen
11. Publicity
11.1. Presented by the secretary (Stephen McCann).
11.2. There is not much happening, but there have been some unsolicited emails from journalists. A meeting will be announced if something needs to be discussed and approved.
12. Timelines
12.1. Will be updated by the secretary towards the end of the week Please can all sub group chairman send timeline information to the secretary before Thursday evening.
13. Status of all groups (11-08-0547r0)
13.1. This is a new document which summarizes the status of all the groups
13.2. Chair: Please note that Richard Paine(TGk chair) is not at this meeting
13.3. IEEE 802.11s requires a secretary
13.4. IEEE 802.11T plan to withdraw its PAR this week.
13.5. IEEE 802.11aa is a new task group this week.
13.6. VHT SG is producing 2 PARs this week, which will therefore require 2 nominated chairs.
13.7. Technical Editor (11-08-0559r0). Please note editor’s meeting at 07:00 on Tuesday morning.
13.8. Chair: Any more presentations for WNG SC. There is currently 1 presentation.
13.9. IMT-A will probably finish its activities this week.
13.10. Please note that ARC (Architecture Standing Committee) now has an initial document 11-08-0575r0
14. Vice Chairs Report (11-08-0513r0)
14.1. Please note these slides about other issues such as:
14.2. Network
14.2.1. The network appears to be working and no problems have been noted
14.2.2. There is free internet access from the Hyatt guest rooms
14.3. Membership summary
14.3.1. There are about 211 voters at the moment, with a net loss of 49 people since the last meeting.
14.3.2. The vice-chair (Adrian Stephens) showed a summary of the ballot response rate for LB 126.
14.3.3. Please do not wait until the end of each letter ballot to vote, and please remember that if you miss 2 out of 3 letter ballots you will loose your voting rights.
14.3.4. Q: Regarding re-circulation ballots, if you don’t vote on the first time, you can vote a later point.
14.3.5. A: I think you would only have 1 strike against you. But this needs to be checked.
14.3.6. Q: I don’t think that is right.
14.3.7. A: The pool is fixed at the first letter ballot. so its only those people who can re-vote. Indeed if you loose you voting rights, you can still vote on the re-circulation ballots, if you are in the original voting pool.
14.4. Attendance
14.4.1. Please note the slides about the attendance procedures and if you have any problems , please go and see Christina Sahr (IEEE)
14.4.2. If you change your address or affiliation, please let the vice chair (Adrian Stephens) know as soon as possible.
14.4.3. The attendance system and letter ballots are now about 80% automated, as opposed to 30% as it was in previous meetings. Please note that there are errors in the database, which are being updated.
14.4.4. The web site will be gradually updated, with frames being removed.
15. Dominance Report
15.1. This issue was mentioned at the end of the March 2008 meeting.
15.2. There is currently a draft document which will be reviewed by Paul Nikolich (IEEE 802 chair).
15.3. This task is ongoing and will be discussed further at the July 2008 meeting.
16. Any Other Business
16.1. None
16.2. Meeting recessed at 10:01 ET.
Wednesday, 19 May 2008
IEEE 802.11 Mid Week Plenary
Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell) opened the meeting at 10:32 ET.
123 people present.
17. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-08-0449r4)
17.1. Taken items from Friday and moved them to today’s agenda, after the liaison reports.
17.2. Please note that all TG election positions have to be ratified by the 802 ExCom.
17.3. Following neither discussion nor dissent the agenda was approved by unanimous consent.
18. Policies and procedures
18.1. Please note that this meeting is still operating under Monday’s P&P rules.
18.2. No questions about this.
19. Call for Essential Patents
19.1. Call for essential patents
19.2. No items raised.
20. CAC
20.1. Reminder about 19.30 meeting on Thursday
21. Attendance Recording (11-08-513r3)
21.1. Vice chair (Adrian Stephens). New attendance system appears to be fine.
21.2. The link for all documents is http://griffin.events.ieee.org/802.11
21.3. Please look at document 11-08-0513r3 for some update information about the attendance and document systems.
21.4. Q: Is there a self service option to maintain email addresses?
21.5. A: Yes, but I’m not sure how to do it myself yet.
22. Other Announcements
22.1. Chair: I’d just like to mention that Menzo Wentink is a voting member
22.2. ARC standing committee
22.3. There will be a new reflector for this group in due course, probably in about 1 week’s time.
23. Liaisons
23.1. 802.18 : Radio Regulatory Tag (11-08-545r0)
23.1.1. Did some work on the IMT-A issue and members may be interested in this, document 11-08-0624r0.
23.1.2. This week 802.18 has been working with 802.15
23.1.3. No questions
23.2. 802.19 (11-08-0556r0)
23.2.1. Did this not meet this week, but there is a report of teleconference calls, since the March 2008 meeting.
23.2.2. There is a typo in the slide set and it will be updated.
23.2.3. No questions
23.3. 802.21
23.4. No liaison at this time.
23.5. Chair: Is there any objection to appointing Clint Chaplin as new liaison officer to IEEE 802.21
23.6. No objections
23.7. In addition, Clint would like to request moving this liaison report to Friday’s plenary
23.8. Wi-Fi Alliance
23.8.1. Andrew Myles (Wi-Fi Alliance Chair)
23.8.2. Brief update on a few items:
23.8.2.1. Certification of 11n is in preparation
23.8.2.2. Public safety group, including use of Wi-Fi in 4.9GHz band
23.8.2.3. Wireless network management group, which is related to 11k and 11v
23.8.2.4. Next face to face meeting is in Austin in a couple of weeks time.
23.8.3. No questions
23.9. Bluetooth
23.9.1. No report
23.10. IETF (11-08-0394r0)
23.10.1. Nothing much, so just a mention of the March 2008 report
23.11. ISO JTC1/SC 6 (11-08-0642r0)
23.11.1. Quite a few new activities regarding China’s request to liaise and discuss WAPI with IEEE 802.11.
23.11.2. Hence the JTC1 ad hoc will meet twice this week to discuss all the new ideas.
23.11.3. One of these is for Chinese delegates to attend IEEE 802.11 and participate.
23.11.4. Straw polls were completed for each of these separate items.
23.11.5. There may well be a tutorial in July on this point.
23.11.6. No questions
23.11.7. Chair: I think it would also be useful to inform ExCom of your work.
23.12. TIA
23.12.1. No report
23.13. 3GPP (11-08-0629r0)
23.13.1. No questions
24. WG11 officer Elections (11-08-641r2)
24.1. The document shows a summary of all nominations and appointments for all TGs and SGs:
Group / Chair / Vice Chair / Technical Editor / SecretaryK / Richard Paine / none / Joe Kwak / none
Mb / -OPEN- / none / none / none
N / Bruce Kraemer / Sheung Li / Adrian Stephens / -OPEN-
P / Lee Armstrong / none / Wayne Fisher / Susan Dickey
R / Clint Chaplin / none / William Marshall / none
S / Donald Eastlake / none / Anthony Maida / Stephen Rayment
T / Neeraj Sharma / none / Tom Alexander / -OPEN-
U / Stephen McCann / none / Necati Canpolat / Matthew Gast
V / Dorothy Stanley / none / Emily Qi / Robert Miller
W / Jesse Walker / none / Nancy Cam-Winget / -OPEN-
Y / Peter Ecclesine / none / Peter Ecclesine / Richard Kennedy
Z / Menzo Wentink / none / Menzo Wentink / Daniel Borges
AA / Ganesh Venkatesan / none / Hang Liu / -OPEN-
VHT / Eldad Perahia / none / none / none
24.2. All we have to do here is to approve TG/SG chairs, as the editors and secretaries are internal decisions.