NMC PLANNING & OPERATIONS
OCTOBER 2014
CONFIRMED
CONFIRMED MINUTES
OCTOBER 21, 2014
PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, USA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2014
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS
1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check
The Nadcap Management Council (NMC) Planning & Operations meeting was called to order at 5:00 p.m., 21-Oct-2014.
A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:
Subscriber NMC Voting Members Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME / COMPANY NAME* / Latch / Anguelov / SAFRAN Group
* / David / Bale / Pratt & Whitney Canada
* / Pascal / Blondet / Airbus
* / Bob / Bodemuller / Ball Aerospace & Technology Corp.
* / Katie / Bradley / Lockheed Martin Corp.
* / Bob / Cashman / Parker Aerospace
* / Russell / Cole / Northrop Grumman Corp.
* / Jose Eduardo / Freire / Embraer SA
* / Hidekazu / Furugori / Mitsubishi Aircraft Corporation
* / John / Haddock / BAE Systems – MAI
* / Scott / Iby / Hamilton Sundstrand (UTAS)
* / Jason / Jolly / Cessna Aircraft Company
* / Karen / Kim / Sikorsky Aircraft
* / Bob / Koukol / Honeywell Aerospace
* / Daniel / Lecuru / Airbus Helicopters
* / Jeff / Lott / The Boeing Company
* / Scott / Maitland / Goodrich (UTAS)
* / Frank / Mariot / Triumph Group
* / Jean-Philippe / Mathevet / SAFRAN Group
* / Steve / McGinn / Honeywell Aerospace
* / Robin / McGuckin / Bombardier Aerospace
* / Michael / Murray / Beechcraft
* / Ana / Ottani dos Santos / Embraer SA
* / Mark / Rechtsteiner / GE Aviation
* / Per / Rehndell / GKN Aerospace Sweden AB
* / Brad / Richwine / Raytheon Co.
* / Victor / Schonberger / Israel Aerospace Industries
* / David / Soong / Pratt & Whitney
* / Kevin / Ward / Goodrich (UTAS) / NMC Chairperson
Supplier NMC Voting Members Present (* indicates NMC Voting Member)
NAME / COMPANY NAME* / Mike / Brandt / Alcoa
* / Jim / Cummings / Metal Finishing Company, Inc.
Task Group Chairpersons/Vice Chairpersons Present
NAME / COMPANY NAME / TASK GROUPCharles / Beargie / Goodrich (UTAS) / Conventional Machining as a Special Process
Robin / Borrelli / The Boeing Company / Aerospace Quality Systems
Elaine / Boswell / Rolls-Royce / Metallic Materials Manufacturing
Kent / DeFranco / Lockheed Martin Corp. / Sealants
Karyn / Deming / Goodrich (UTAS) / Chemical Processing
Roy / Garside / Rolls-Royce / Electronics
Simon / Gough-Rundle / Rolls-Royce / Measurement & Inspection
Yann / Jeffredo / SAFRAN Group / Conventional Machining as a Special Process
John / Key / Bell Helicopter Textron / Composites / Non Metallic Materials
Holger / Krueger / Airbus / Welding
Joel / Mohnacky / Hamilton Sundstrand (UTAS) / Coatings
Tim / Myers / Honeywell Aerospace / Materials Testing Laboratories
Alex / Pohoata / Honeywell Aerospace / Nonconventional Machining / Surface Enhancement
Amanda / Rickman / Raytheon Co. / Materials Testing Laboratories
David / Royce / Pratt & Whitney / NonDestructive Testing
Richard / Rumas / Honeywell Aerospace / Electronics
Udo / Schuelke / Honeywell Aerospace / Coatings
Bobby / Scott / Bombardier Aerospace / NonDestructive Testing
Mike / Stolze / Northrop Grumman / Chemical Processing
Steve / Tooley / Rolls-Royce / Welding
Paul / Woolley / Rolls-Royce / Nonconventional Machining / Surface Enhancement
Other Attendees (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME / COMPANY NAMENicolas / Barthelemy / Airbus Helicopters
Arne / Logan / Mitsubishi Aircraft Corporation
Andrew / McClelland / Lockheed Martin Corp.
Marc / Montreuil / Héroux-Devtek
Eric / Saillard / Thales Group
Tatsuko / Suzuki / Mitsubishi Aircraft Corporation
Stanley / Trull / Honeywell Aerospace
PRI Staff Present
Jerry / AstonMark / Aubele
James / Bennett
William / Calvert
Nigel / Cook
Marcel / Cuperman
Phil / Ford
Susan / Frailey
Michael / Graham
Mike / Gutridge
Rob / Hoeth
Scott / Klavon
Jim / Lewis
Bob / Lizewski
Brian / Manty
Dave / Marcyjanik
Julia / Markardt
Brittany / McSorley
Kellie / O’Connor
Keith / Purnell
Glenn / Shultz
Andy / Statham
Jon / Steffey
John / Tibma
Kevin / Wetzel
1.2 Kevin Ward noted that this meeting is for members of the NMC, Task Group Chairs, Vice Chairs, and PRI Staff. The following guests of the NMC Chairperson were introduced and acknowledged:
· Nicolas Barthelemy
· Arne Logan
· Andrew McClelland
· Marc Montreuil
· Eric Saillard
· Tatsuko Suzuki
· Stanley Trull
1.3 Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes
Motion made by Pascal Blondet and seconded by Richard Blyth to confirm the minutes from the previous meeting. Motion passed and the June 2014 NMC Planning & Operations meeting minutes were approved as written.
2.0 RAIL Review – OPEN
The Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) was reviewed. Item # P&O-13 was closed. Item #P&O-27 will be discussed further at this meeting.
For specific details, please see the current RAIL embedded on the last page of the minutes.
3.0 Auditor Consistency Update/AUDIT OBSERVATION
Richard Blyth presented a status update on the Auditor Consistency implementation plan with the Task Groups. A Roundtable meeting is scheduled for Wednesday this week where additional feedback will be gathered. For additional details, please see the attached presentation.
4.0 Task Group Cycle Time Metric
Richard Blyth gave a presentation on the observation raised regarding Task Group cycle time. The attendees were asked whether this issue has been resolved as it isn’t causing a problem, or if we need another solution, such as a change to the metric. For additional details on the discussion, please see the attached presentation.
A sub-team consisting of the following members was formed: Richard Blyth, Jim Lewis, Nigel Cook and Susan Frailey.
ACTION ITEM: Task Group Cycle Time Sub-Team to determine the path forward and whether a change to the metric is necessary. (Due Date: 25-Jun-2015)
5.0 IMAPD (PD1000) – REPLACEMENT DOCUMENT FOR AS7003
Kevin Ward gave a brief update on the new Command Media structure. The current target is to have it completed by end of 2014 and in ballot early next year.
6.0 Task group report / discussion time
It is noted that just days prior to this meeting the Task Group Report template was revised to include a report of Task Group metrics. All groups reported on those metrics even if that data is not captured in their official reports. Metrics has been added to the template for future reports.
6.1 Aerospace Quality Systems (AQS)
Robin Borrelli gave the AQS report out. The Task Group rolled out a new auditor training process to qualify AQS auditors this month. Also, AS9100 will be revised within the next couple years, so the group is determining any anticipated effects. For more details, please see the attached presentation:
6.2 Conventional Machining as a Special Process (CMSP)
Yann Jeffredo gave the CMSP report. The Task Group has conducted supplier workshops at each of the Nadcap Meetings within the last year, and plan to continue this in the upcoming year. They are transitioning leadership at this meeting, Yann Jeffredo moving into the Task Group Chairperson role. One current concern is the audit review cycle time, which is red. This is due to vacations during the month of August, and the Task Group discussed this during closed session. For more details, please see the attached presentation:
6.3 Measurement & Inspection (M&I)
Simon Gough-Rundle gave the M&I report. The first Nadcap audit for M&I will take place in November 2014, due to the GE mandate of Air Flow. Key projects in the upcoming year are to further develop the mandates and further determine what the reasons are for lack of prime mandates, such as audit duration & frequency. The group has a great level of support from the current participants and asks NMC for additional support to promote M&I within their businesses. For more details, please see the attached presentation:
ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to distribute Simon Gough-Rundle’s Board presentation on M&I to the NMC to allow Subscriber members to present or distribute within their own companies to gain additional support with the correct personnel from those companies. (Due Date: 02-Mar-2015)
6.4 Sealant (SLT)
The Task Group has completed the Sealant Application checklist and is now seeking supplier participation for a pilot audit. The next step is to complete an NMC compliance worksheet documenting where the requirements come from for that checklist, gain mandates and contract auditors. For more details, please see the attached presentation:
6.5 Fluids (FLU)
Keith Purnell gave the report for Fluids, as the Task Group does not meet during Nadcap week. The Task Group added 6 new specifications under the fittings accreditation scope and 2 under Hose assembly. One concern/risk of the group is the minimal participation from non-US Subscribers. Additionally the travel for Observation audits is a concern because the committee does not have funding for a lot of travel. One metric was in the red (delegation oversight). The issue was a one-time problem and has been resolved. For more details, please see the attached presentation:
7.0 other issues / new business / discussion
7.1 Audit Observations
There are some recent concerns in regards to the Audit Observations. There have been a number of observations not conducted, either due to cancellations by the observer or the supplier declining. Additionally, of the audits that were observed, a number of reports have not been returned to PRI. For more details, please see the attached presentation:
It was noted that the data regarding cancellations may be skewed as a result of how the information is tracked. For example, if an audit is moved and as a result the observer is unable to attend, that counts as a cancellation even if the observer subsequently chooses another audit. Kevin Ward also emphasized the importance of returning the completed forms to PRI. Susan Frailey noted that if a Subscriber is planning to observe a special process audit that has a conjoined AQS audit, a separate request must be sent in order to observe the AQS portion of the audit.
ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to schedule a WebEx after the Nadcap meeting to look at how the Audit Observation data is tracked and whether the current method of tracking is the best way or if it should be modified. (Due Date: 02-Mar-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Bob Lizewski to send the back-up data from the chart to the Task Group leadership. (Due Date: 01-Nov-2015)
7.2 Mode B Failure Criteria for Initial Re-entry Audits
John Key gave a proposal regarding Mode B Failure Criteria for Initial Re-entry Audits of a Supplier who has never been accredited, as they failed their original Initial Audit. For more details, please see the attached presentation:
After discussion, it was decided that no change should be made to the program documentation, as another Task Group may decide to take a different approach based on a given situation.
7.3 It was noted that perhaps further clarification is needed regarding Risk Mitigation so that Suppliers understand that there is no re-entry within two years unless they go through the Risk Mitigation process. Additionally, how do you resolve a conflict if the Risk Mitigation team cannot come to a consensus.
7.4 RAIL Review
New action items identified during this meeting were reviewed. For more details, please see the attached RAIL below.
ADJOURNMENT – 21-OCT-2014 – Meeting was adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Minutes Prepared by: Kellie O’Connor,
RAIL:
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YES* ☐ NO ☒
*If yes, the following information is required:
Documents requiring revision: / Who is responsible: / Due date: