August 2013 doc.: IEEE 11-13-0947-00-000ac
IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs
Date: 2013-07-10
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
Osama Aboul-Magd / Huawei Technologies / 303 Terry Fox Drive
Ottawa, ONT, CANADA / 613-287-1405 /
Abstract
This document contains the meeting minutes of the IEEE 802.11ac CRC meeting held in Munich, Germany, July 10-11.
July 10, 2013
Attendees present:
· Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei) – Chair and acting secretary
· Adrian Stephens
· Robert Stacey
· Yusuke Asai
· Eldad Perahia
· Allert Van Zelst
· SK Yong
· Sigurd Schelstraete
· Menzo Wentink
Agenda:
· IEEE 802 and IEEE 802.11 IPR policies and procedure
· Comment Resolution
·
The Chairman calls the meeting to order at 2013-7-10 at 9:30 local time.
The Chairman reviews the agenda today.
The Chairman asks if anybody has comments/objection to the agenda. No response noted.
The Chairman asks if anybody not familiar with IEEE policy. No response noted.
The Chairman calls for potential essential patents. No one responds to the call and no claims are brought forward.
There are 9 voting members present.
The Chairman reviews the comment status.
Presentation #1: 13/0686r0 SB0 CID 10153 and others (Matthew Fischer, Broadcom)
Osama presented
Comment resolution motion #72: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 10262 and 10267 in doc 11-13/0686r2
• Move: Menzo Second: Adrian
• No discussion on the motion
• Accepted with no objection
Presentation #2: 13/0727r0 SB01 resolutions for various comments (Robert Stacey, Intel)
Robert presented
CID 10294
Adrian: if the statement is accurate you can leave ensure.
Robert: delete “designed to”. Proposed resolution changed to Revised.
CID 10328
Adrian: “could” doesn’t exist in the allowed verbs. May implies a probability. Is this an allowed sequence and where the rules that allows it?
Proposed resolution is changed to Rejected.
Comment resolution motion #73: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 10229, 10357, 10259, 10276, 10023, 10294, 10328, 10332, 10296, 10335, 10342, 10343, 10345, and 10055 in doc 11-13/0727r1
Move: Robert Stacey Second: Menzo Wentink
Accepted with no objection
Presentation #3: 11-13/0706
Sigurd Schelstraete presented
Comment resolution motion #74: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 10113, 10112, 10061, 10053, 10060 and 10238 in doc 11-13/0706r1
Move: Sigurd Schelstraete Second: Allert Van Zelst
Accepted with no objection
Presentation #4: 11-13/0713
Yusuke Asai presented
Comment resolution motion #75: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 10089, 10090, 10091, 10136, 10121, 10092, 10122, 10124, 10093, 10125, 10095, 10094, 10097 and 10098 in doc 11-13/0713r1.
Move: Yusuke Asai Second: Allert Van Zelst
Accepted with no objection
Presentation #5: 11-13/0731
Osama started the discussion of the proposed resolution. The CRC wasn;t able to go over all the proposed resolution because of the time. The discussion and related motion(s) will be considered tomorrow
Meeting is in recess till 2013-07-11 @9:00 am local time.
July 11, 2013
Attendees present:
· Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei) – Chair and acting secretary
· Adrian Stephens
· Robert Stacey
· Yusuke Asai
· Eldad Perahia
· Allert Van Zelst
· SK Yong
· Sigurd Schelstraete
· Menzo Wentink
· Edward Au
· Liza Ward
Agenda:
· IEEE 802 and IEEE 802.11 IPR policies and procedure
· Comment Resolution
·
The Chairman calls the meeting to order at 2013-7-10 at 9:30 local time.
The Chairman reviews the agenda today.
The Chairman asks if anybody has comments/objection to the agenda. No response noted.
The Chairman asks if anybody not familiar with IEEE policy. No response noted.
The Chairman calls for potential essential patents. No one responds to the call and no claims are brought forward.
There are 11 voting members present.
The Chairman reviews the comment status
The CRC started the meeting with the continuation of 11-13/0731 proposed resolutions.
Comment resolution motion # 76: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 10143, 10144, 10063, 10064, 10228, 10217, 10219, 10233, 10235, 10239, 10240, 10218 and 10032 in doc 11-13/0731r1
Move: Adrian Stephens Second: Robert Stacey
Accepted with no objection
Presentation #6: 11-13/0727
Comment Resolution Motion #77: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs:
– CID 10329 in doc 11-13/0727r2
Move: Robert Stacey Second: Edward Au
Accepted with no objection
The CRC discussed the status of the 4 hour rule and whether it is applicable during CRC meeting outside IEEE 802.11 regular session. Adrian suggested to have a motion to clarify the issue.
Moved that this CRC is not currently operating under 802.11 rules that requires four hours between submission material and consideration of the motion.
Move: Adrian Stephens Second: Robert Stacey
Y/N/A: 9/0/0 – Motion passes
Presentation #7: 11-13/0749
Robert presented
Comment resolution motion # 78: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 10071, 10072, 10074, 10075 in doc 11-13/0749r0
Move: Robert Stacey Second: Edward Au
Accepted with no objection.
Presentation #8: 11-13/0637 and 11-13/0645
Edward presented
Comment resolution motion # 79: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs
– CID 10169 in doc 11-13/0637r3
– CIDs 10168, 10290, and 10291 in doc 11-13/0654r2
Move: Edward Au Second: Menzo Wentink
Accepted with no objection.
Presentation #9: 11-13/0713 and 11-13/0737
Yusuke presented
Comment resolution motion #80: Move to approve resolutions to CIDs
– CID 10120 in doc 11-13/0713r2
– CID 10132 in doc 11-13/0737r0
Move: Yusuke Asai Second: Edward Au
Accepted with no objection
Presentation #10: 11-13/0659
Eldad presented
Comment resolution motion #81: Move to approve resolution of CID 10059 in doc 11-13/0659r4
Move: Eldad Perahia Second: Edward Au
Accepted with no objection
Presentation #11: 11-13/0748
Eldad presented
Comment resolution motion #82: Move to approve resolution of CID 10206 in doc 11-13/0748r1
Move: Eldad Perahia Second: Menzo Wentink
Accepted with no objection
All submissions were discussed during the F2F meetings. Robert suggested proposed resolutions to CIDs 10307 and 10051.
Comment resolution motion #83: Move to approve
– “Accepted” as the resolution to CID 10307
– “Rejected” as the resolution to CID 10051
• the comment doesn’t identify a specific problem or specific changes to be made.
Move: Robert Stacey Second: Edward Au
Accepted with no objection
Robert has finished resolving all the comments marked as editorial
Comment resolution motion #84: Move to approve resolutions of comments in the tab “Editorial” in document:
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0485-07-00ac-sb0-comments-d5-0.xls
Move: Robert Stacey Second: Menzo Wentink
Accepted with no objection
The editor (Robert Stacey) indicated that all comments submitted during the initial sponsor ballot were resolved.
Osama suggested running a motion to proceed to 15-day recirculation ballot
Sponsor ballot recirculation motion:
• Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from the initial sponsor ballot on P802.11ac Draft 5.0 as contained in document 11-13/0485r8,
• Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 6.0 incorporating these resolutions and,
• Approve a 15 day Sponsor Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11ac Draft 6.0 be forwarded to RevCom?”
• Moved: Menzo Wentink, Seconded: Eldad Perahia,
• Result: 10-0-0
The CRC discussed the need for time slots during the Geneva meeting next week. The consensus was there is no need for any time slots. Minutes approval can be done during this F2F meeting. Osama is to cancel those time slots assigned to TGac next week.
Approval of Minutes:
• Approve TGac minutes of meetings and teleconferences from May 2013 plenary to today
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0642-00-00ac-tgac-meeting-minutes-big-island-may-2013.doc
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0645-00-00ac-tgac-teleconference-minutes-20130523.doc
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0651-00-00ac-tgac-teleconference-minutes-20130530.doc
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0667-00-00ac-tgac-teleconference-minutes-20130606.doc
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0684-00-00ac-tgac-teleconference-minutes-20130613.doc
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0690-00-00ac-tgac-teleconference-minutes-20130620.doc
– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-0702-00-00ac-tgac-teleconference-minutes-20130627.doc
Move: Eldad Perahia Second: Yusuke Asai
Accepted with no objection
Telecon times were discussed. The agreed telecom schedule is:
Telecon Motion:
Move to approve the following times for the TGac Telecons
– August 8, 22, Sept 5, Oct. 3 10:00 – 12:00 ET
– August 15, August 29, Sept 12, Sept 26, Oct 10 20:00 – 22:00 ET
Move: Adrian Stephens Second: Edward Au
Accepted with no objections
The sentiment of the group is that there is no need to have a F2F meeting in September before the 802.11 session.
Meeting is adjourned at 2:30 pm local time.
Submission page 1 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei)