From: Nick Chugg

Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 7:56 PM

To: Public Health

Subject: As no government body actually listens to the public this is probably a

waste of time and money!

To whom it may concern,

I will state for the record that I m currently a smoker, that understands the

negative health effects of smoking. I also try not to affect anyone else with my

tobacco smoke.

What is completely missing from the current studies on smoking are the other

pollutants in the atmosphere, both indoors and outdoors.

If you do not have any measurement of the effects of vehicle emissions,

household emissions (VOC’s) or the emissions of polluting industries on the

effects of health how can you, with any scientific credibility, accurately and

beyond doubt measure the effects of smoking, second-hand smoke or environmental

tobacco smoke (EMT). I recall at least one study in NSW that cited car exhaust

as being equivalent to smoking one pack of cigarettes, per day, in the Greater

Sydney Area. Without having any baseline data for studies on all pollutants your

research, and limited studies on tobacco smoke, are flawed. I see that in the

reference section there are no references related to other pollutants; nor is

there any references for the counter arguments! Very poor research Roscoe!!! It

is hard to agree with an argument, no matter how persuasive, if it cannot at

least debate all side of the argument! Until studies are conducted looking at

the effects of say vehicle emissions and noise pollution on Alfresco dining, you

can in no way state, truthfully, the effects of EMT.

Australia is the most regulated country in the developed (western) world;

without any bill of rights for its people. Perhaps if we actually showed

compassion and tried to help the less fortunate, such as Indigenous Australians

or those suffering from addiction, rather than just regulate. People prefer self

determination! Do we actually live in a democracy or a dictatorship? Increasing

the cost does not help people in lower socioeconomic positions who are currently

addicted to nicotine. Nor has the government directed the entire revenue it

collects form tobacco (or alcohol or gambling) towards dealing with the issue in

a informative democratic way.

While I would have to agree with most of the proposals, I do not agree with the

approach of the discussion paper.

If you truly want to get to the heart of the matter you actually need to repeal

and change the legislation of the Corporations Act, take away the power of large

multinational corporations (such as tobacco, alcohol and gambling) and give it

back to the people.

Just remember that prohibition has never worked! The more you tell or push young

people about an issue the more they will rebel. The continuing attack on smokers

does no good and just divides the community. Education is and always will be the

key! Have a look at Portugal’s drug reform policies, the decriminalisation of a

lot of their illicit drugs has actually reduced participation and consumption

rates.

Smoking and drinking are not particularly pleasant habits to start, you actually

need to acquire the taste/ develop the habit! You need to engender social change

through choice and education, not rules and legislation. I can guarantee you

will not find many smokers who actually endorse smoking to anyone they like J.

The only way I could actually support all your reforms are if you conduct all

the relevant studies, very unlikely; particularly as this would need to be done

by independent scientific research organisations; and would be far too costly

for the measly budget DHHS receives for these enterprises. It unfortunately

just seems like another attack on a minority group, backed and pushed/promoted

by a lobby/minority group! Why should we trust a government funded body that is

unwilling to look at, or just ignores, all the possible effects of pollution,

particularly in waterways from forestry activities, or the emission form

vehicles and industry? Or a government that refuses to listen to the people,

when a 70% majority wanted to end the logging of Old Growth forests in

Tasmania’s last referendum!

People have the right to choose, regardless of what the government and lobby

groups may want to dictate!

Life is meant to be lived!

Liberty and Freedom of choice, are the inherent rights of all humanity – even if

you may not agree with everyone’s choice – and providing that choice does not

hurt harm or affect another person’s Liberty and Freedom of choice!

Nick Chugg

Student – Bachelor of Science, University of Tasmania

Personal submission

Authors interest – Public

P.S.

Sounds more like another revenue raising approach, for councils!

P.P.S.

The inherent problems with data collection, using a parallel such as speeding

research ; If you install more camera’s and the government tells the police to

increase its anti-speeding campaigns you statistically get an increase in

speeding, thereby justifying the added funds you have put towards the speeding

campaign – there is a feedback loop – a self fulfilling prophecy!