Wednesday Transcripts
2/4/2016
Absent: Henry
Presenting: Lilly, Sara, Kate
Michael L - eating an apple noisily during the quiz…
Kate - please turn to page 156 - Penelope and Suitors picture - Book 4 - suitors trying to kill Telemachus - trying to stop them from marrying Penelope; Zeus and Hermes come to talk to Calypso
Kate: Reading starting on line 129 - excellent expression in the reading - nice job
First Script: Lilly as Hermes; Kate as Calypso - Funny job of using the back and forth and then the direct address of the audience...watch me put him in his place...ok fine ...whatever
Sylvia - Calypso relates to hubris/humility - thought she could keep O - all the other goddesses had their men taken away - thought she was more important
James - gods/humans - even though Calypso is a god, Zeus is a senior god - humans must listen even if they disagree
Morgan - related to James - unfair how Zeus would treat people so unfairly - senior gods had relationships with multiple humans
Ben - gods can control the fate - Hermes comes down - Calypso forced
Margo - this section shows how gods really control all mortals - certain gods think they have power over other gods - such as Zeus over Calypso - even though they are both immortal
Jack - Calypso’s rant - O does not have anything to say in the situation Zeus’ commands do benefit O - how the gods could be on the sort of mortal side
Brian - back to Morgan’s point - a lot about Greek culture - okay if a married man with a lot of women - married women unacceptable…
Jack - Calypso went on for quite a while - clearly portrayed in the presentation “I will gladly advise him - hide nothing” - contradicting her own opinions BTT
Kate - anyone think about why?
Jared - she realizes that she is kind of wrong - just says ok fine
Sylvia - if she does go against the gods, then they’ll kill him...wouldn’t get home
Morgan - for the reason why - exiled to an island already - could get worse for her…
Ben - for fate/freeedom - even though your fate seems determined could easily be changed - O got changed
Jack - fate/freedom - belief that gods create the fate yet they do not agree with each other - so whose fate
Not yet talked: Mia, Riley, Michael B, Michael L, Jose, Frederick, Jackie, Zach, Manya
Sara reading starting on line 190 - good pronunciation and flow - could have used more expression - jumps to line 236…
Second Script: Kate as Calypso - Sara as Odysseus - nice address of the audience again - I’m so much better than Penelope - good lines...well spoken - Boost her ego a lot….
Zach - O hubris/humility - he is showing humility to agree with Calypso - humans not as good as goddess - trying to get her to help him out
Riley Odysseus desperate to see his son - feels guilty for being with Calypso for so long
Manya - Calypso warns about the dangers - wants him to change his mind
Michael L - O stayed away from home way too long - chose to go home - shows he likes his home - he is homesick - nostalgic
Jackie - wants to leave now - on Calypso’s island - hasn’t had a chance to leave and Poseidon is far away - he might not have another chance
Margo - methods of persuasion - we could say O the way he describes his wife...does boost Calypso’s ego...uses mortal vs god…
Manya - “God wreck me again I can bear that too” BTT - does not care about dangers
Zach - BTT 158-159 - if you only knew what pains - choosing adventure over comfort - leaving Calypso’s island - choosing comfort over adventure - on an adventure on Calypso’s island - wants comfort of his own palace
Frederick - O uses concession - line 239-240 - “Your beauty and stature” - conceding that yeah you are better than her but I still love her
Sylvia - second thought question also - even though she is immortal - still in love with her regardless - she might be prettier than Penelope is...still wants to go back
Ben - to be remembered - if he just stays on the island - the suitors will take over his kingdom
Brian - on p 159 - top Calypso says that he would be immortal BTT - remembered more but he chose to go back home
Ben - respectful disagreement - can’t be remembered if left on an island
Kate - live forever but not go back - Achilles choice
Jack - also respectfully disagree with Brian - couldn’t tell his story if he stayed on the island…
Michael B - methods of persuasion - appeal to Athena;s emotions - appealing to her to help him to get home - also third thought question - Calypso warns him to keep him there...
Not yet talked: Mia, Jose
Lilly - good slide talking about Ino
Lilly - good, clear pronunciation of the passage - could be more emotional in expression
Script 3 - Lilly as Poseidon with tin foil trident - Sara as being blown around by Lilly as Odysseus
Mia - I thought Poseidon relates to Sisyphus - when O is trying to get back, Poseidon is really - O is so close to getting back to Ithaca and Poseidon gets in his way - O manages to stay alive
Jose - relationship between O and sea/land - god of land and Poseidon - conflicts between those 2 and their different points of view - foreshadows
Brian - both violate xenia - Poseidon is god of the sea - not very welcoming - fill my cup with pain - O is saying this line 331 BTT - showing that O is ready to fight Poseidon even on Poseidon’s turf/sea
James - xenia - Odysseus violates xenia by going on to the sea - without bringing to a gift to Poseidon - when Poseidon showed him he didn’t want him there - also stealing Cyclops sheep and blinding him - poseidon also violating it - still meant to look after O - trying to kill him instead
Sylvia - in the book, look how the gods have changed their mind about O - connects to Sisyphus - O punishments will never be complete - a way out of it - Tantalus - keeps trying to kill O but it never happens
Zach - on the journey - on the sea - problems with Poseidon - but on land he is eager to get back on the sea
Margo - BTT - back to the same quote Sylvia used - off with my Ethiopians - how in a way O seems immortal - even as Poseidon was trying to kill him the whole time - even Poseidon knows the gods are on O’s side - giving O a sense of immortality
Brian - I disagree with Margo respectfully - even though Poseidon is aware that the gods are against him I don’t think he cares
Jose - for the first question, Odysseus given the scarf by Ino - immortal but only for a limited time - had to throw it back
Sylvia - sea is sort of like Poseidon’s home - O’s raft is sort of like O’s home
Ben - I agree with Jose - battle of the sea - shows how O is mortal - constantly needs exterior help - getting off the island or the scarf…
Sylvia - night swept down from the sky - came quickly, unexpectedly - Poseidon changing weather quickly
Jackie - nymph foretold it well - cup of pain - Greek culture - grapes and olives and wine - cup like a wine glass
James - more fig lang - fury boil - emotions can’t actually boil - helping to show how angry he was - getting hot-headed
Brian - line 308 BTT - Phaecian island - rising like a shield - right before Poseidon attacks him - looks like to get bigger really fast…
Michael L - line 337 - BTT - fearful of Poseidon - life was at stake
Zach - Phaician - his defense is to get on land like a shield is
Morgan- line 307 - wine dark sea - sea not the real color - god of wine - like Jackie said…
Kate - symmetry throughout these three passages...each of them say something and then act another way - why so much of this?
Lilly - how did O change from all these passages?
Sylvia - connects to Greek culture - contradiction - every good thing they do a bad contradiction
Ben - O does not change that much - sticking to his guns…
Jack - O went from not trusting Calypso to trusting and then not trusting her again once the seas attacked him
Book 6
Presenting: Michael B, Frederick, Jack
Date: 2/9/16
Absent: nobody
Slide show -
Frederick - raft destroyed - scarf from sea nymph - Athena enters Nausicaa’s dream - getting married soon- she should wash her clothes - he is at the washing place
Passage One
Frederick reading aloud lines 27-62
Scene One
Michael B - as dressed in black robe - emperor Palatine-ish
Jack - as a “whatever” girl - am I in a reality tv show?
Really funny - great acting
Jared - fate vs freedom - gods really controlling what is going on with Nausicaa BTT - line 43 - so much nicer to ride - persuasion…
Ben - Athena pulls an inception - to go into the dream - you can get to somebody in the dream - create an original thought that she wo9uld believe - fate/freedom - not really thinking these things - Athena’s influence
Jackie - bring it up to show that the gods - humans at their best interest - line 49 a great radiance gods all their days in bliss - why would they want to leave there - care about the people so much to try and help Odysseus…
Brian - character analysis - Athena left...great things about Mt Olympus…
Zach - line 37-38 BTT won’t stay unwed long - question 2 - Nausicaa wants to get married - Athena telling her that she can accomplish this goal easily…Tantalus - to get that fruit he would whatever was necessary
Brian - I think that Olympus - like a nirvana from Buddhism - LINK
Sara - Athena disguised herself as a friend - to get Nausicaa to trust her - related to fate/freedom - controlling Nausicaa’s future
Sylvia - she connected - Athena appealing to her emotions - persuading her to ask - able to get married - washing her clothes to get her a husband - you deserve much more than you probably think.
Slide Show 2
Michael B - disgusting naked man emerging from the bushes - compliments her flirts with her - talking to a princess like its nothing….begging for help
Michael B reading aloud lines 163-192 - passage 2
Scene 2 - Michael B - no acne or footwear
Frederick - flirting
Jack - still the whatever girl
Good writing of this script also…
Not yet spoken: Mia, Margo, Riley, Lilly, Jose, James, Morgan, Kate, Michael S, Manya
Mia - Odysseus tells Nausicaa the story to create sympathy for him from her - wine dark sea and escaped from Poseidon
Riley - compares her to a goddess to manipulate her
Zach appealing to reader’s emotions - to feel compassion for him - take pity on him
Lilly - change his mood a
lot to get what he wants to convince Calypso - and now to persuade Nausicaa - to get cleaned up - changed his mood to be persuasive
Henry - recognizing - can’t believe they will stop like Sisyphus - and say this journey can be eternal BTT
Manya - the power that brought O to the island the immortals - feels negatively toward it line 189 - the power has “tossed” him there
Margo - same quote as Manya - tossed me here some power -to suffer more torments - uses - can’t actually that he was tossed - that kind of fig lang - how rough his journey has been Nausicaa should feel sympathetic
Michale S - O just woke up - line 164 - a goddess? did not know was Nausicaa was mortal - also, he was drifted to another land/country - should give gifts from xenia - he had no gifts - only show respect - to Nausicaa - relates to know your place - humility - did not know whether she was a goddess - If nausicaa was a god - worried about angering them
James - isn’t so much comparing Nausicaa to a goddess - talking about when he was in Delos - saw this palm tree - new - really young - gazing rapt at the tree - how amazing she is - stare at her forever - this reveals - clever - good at persuading people
Jose - #5 - to add on - resourcefulness at a loss - just came out of the bushes - he knows he has nothing and tries to get some stuff from her
Kate - to add on to what others have said - flirting with her - never seen anybody like her - he is saying these things to get back to his wife and family - so contradictions
Brian - Athena told her hinted that Odysseus could be her husband
Henry = when O - a responsibility to offer gift to Phaicians - tries to appeal to them - tells them his story which is kind of his gift - make it so that they trust him
Sylvia - to add on to what Henry - violated xenia - Nausicaa shouldn’t be helping her out - appetite v mind - trying to persuade her to do something….
Sara - O flirting with N - related to Book 5 - reocurring event…
Not yet spoken: Morgan
Slide show 3 - Jack - sort of have to take another route - prays to Athena - on the way to King Alcinous’ palace - stops in Athena’s sacred grove - people on the island nice to him, etc.
Passage lines 330-360 - Jack reading
Scene 3
Jack - my daddy has the best house - still the whatever girl
Frederick - an incredulous O
Michael B - Emperor Palatine - Athena
Morgan - when he is talking - his tone is more desperate - praying to the gods here - his humility is really coming out here - if he shows he didn’t get any help it may help him
Margo - tone in prayer - BTT - line 357 - around there - now hear my prayer at last - never heard me then when I was shattered - contributes to the tone - makes it seem like his journey all time low - tone darker
Brian - describes her father - so extravagant - supposed to make her and her father more dislikable - compares her dad to a god
Manya - in the beginning of the book - when Athena wants to help Odysseus - Athena goes and helps him - she is saying the dad won’t help but the mom will
Sylvia - Nausicaa wants to help O also wants to keep up her reputation - related to contradictions - wants to help him which is good but can’t bad.
Presenters for Book 8: Zach, Henry, Mia
Absent: Margo, Brian
2/12/16 (abbreviated schedule)
Slide show - good job Henry - clear description of the slides and then nice the way that it transitioned right into the passage - passage 1 Page 196-197 Lines 190-215, read well by Henry
Ben - I think since Athena made O taller and broader - people were jealous - they thought he thought of himself as a god - challenging him to see if he is actually a god
Michael L - reluctant at first - angry at Broadsea - saying such undecent words - symmetry - O was being polite and reluctant at first but the inside of him he wanted to show how angry he was in response
Frederick - the two boys lacked humility - somebody who looks strong - they kind of say nobody is better than us - let’s challenge him
Sylvia - gods don’t hand out all their gifts at once BTT - good at athletics but ugly or can’t speak
Riley - likes to fight - hungry for adventure like Gilgamesh
Jose - O relates to Rama - Vishnu but human form and O getting help from Athena to throw discus farthest
Kate - does want to prove himself - he is saying that Broadsea is not as important as he is - letting broadsea win by competing - Broadsea used persuasion by getting to O’s emotions
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Sara - O tells Broadsea that he may look strong - Broadsea, he says, isn’t very smart - he looks strong but his mind power is not strong
Lilly - at home everyone knows that O is A big war hero - on the journey he wants to brag they don’t know who he is
James - at home - you are comfortable and don’t need to do much in the Phaicians palace thingy - on the journey for 20 years - still needs to prove himself to them
Michael B - not only do they think they are better they immediately assume that they are better than he is and that he is not an athlete - BTT
Sylvia - decides to throw the discus - good on a physical level - always a bad contradiction to what he does…
Kate - for #y6 wants to show his legacy - during this time - contests were a way to show off - the bow contests like in the Ramayana - through different cultures…
Video 1
In the gym - sportscenter - nice use of insults and slow motion.
Zach - slide show again - to transition to passage 2 page 199 lines 266-296 - Reading
Have not spoken yet: Jared, Jack, Jackie, Manya, Morgan
Jack - Phaicians get their skills from mighty Zeus - skills they had were not practiced - came from the gods
James - Alcinous - double-edged sword - line 269 - simply want to display...saying O has athletic gifts but at the same time he is saying what Broadsea was inappropriate - related to xenia
Jose - Zeus gave them their skills - gods v humans - fate v freedom
Jared - hospitality toward O - respect O more than the two young people who were disrespecting him - respect to O - how powerful O really is - maybe O is a god - violated xenia?
Jackie - in Book 6 and 7 - isolated island - they finally have someone visiting there and want to show off to the gods now - respecting them - gods given them a lot of hods - want to show that they respect the gods and want more people to come - to help O then he will say positive stuff about them when they get home