CONVENTIONAL MACHINING AS A SPECIAL PROCESS
JUNE 2010
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
JUNE 22 – 25, 2010
GRAND COPTHORNE WATERFRONT HOTEL
SINGAPORE
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Conventional Machining as a Special Process Task Group (CMSPTG) in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
TUESDAY, JUNE 22 – THURSDAY, JUNE 24, 2010
OPENING COMMENTS – CLOSED
1.0CALL TO ORDER / QUORUM CHECK– CLOSED
The Conventional Machining as a Special Process Task Group (CMSPTG) was called to order at 9:00 a.m., 22-Jun-10.
It was verified that only Subscriber Members or invited participants were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.
A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:
Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME / COMPANY* / Nicolas / Batista / SAFRAN
* / Marco / Cherubini / Avio SpA
Mohd / Jaapar / GE (International Malaysia)
Iris / Niu / Goodrich
* / John / Pfeiffer / GE Aviation / Chairperson
* / Alex / Pohoata / Honeywell Aerospace
Laurie / Strom / Honeywell Aerospace
Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME / COMPANY NAMEJohn / Esfandi / Fine Quality Metal Finishing and Morell’s Electrol
Yongfeng / Tang / Xi’an Aero-Engine plc
Jihong / Lu / Xi’an Aero-Engine plc
Jian / Yang / Xi’an Aero-Engine plc
PRI Staff Present
Lum / Chee-Soon / AuditorSarah / Jordan
Nai / Puay Guan / Auditor
1.1Review of Personal Code of Ethics and Conflict of Interest
The Antitrust, Personal Code of Ethics and Conflict of Interest, and TG Operating Rules were reviewed.
1.2Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes
The minutes from February 2010 were approved as written.
1.3Call for New Members / Review Current Roster
Marco Cherubini, Avio SpA, was confirmed as a CMSPTG Subscriber Voting Member. Alex Pohoata was confirmed as the Alternate Subscriber Voting Member for Honeywell Aerospace.
2.0AUDITOR SCREENING – CLOSED
The CMSPTG met with Nai Puay Guan and Lum Chee-Soon to screen them as auditor candidates. Both were approved as auditor trainees and afrm27 forms were completed by the CMSPTG.
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan is to ensure appropriate training audits are arranged for training auditors. (DUE DATE: 22-Oct-10)
3.0REVIEW PILOT AUDIT FOLLOW-UP – CLOSED
The follow up to checklist changes for the pilot audits were reviewed. The CMSPTG voted to accredit two of the pilot audits.
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to flow CMSPTG comments back to the pilot companies. (DUE DATE:31-Jul-10)
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to ensure that the pilot audits are accredited. (DUE DATE: 1-Sep-10)
ACTION ITEM: John Pfeiffer to evaluate edge treatment slash sheet (AC7126/6) with abrasive flow process in mind to determine if the questions that apply to “automated processes” provide adequate coverage to that process. (DUE DATE: 1-Sep-10)
ACTION ITEM: John Pfeiffer to evaluate the scope of edge treatment slash sheet (AC7126/6) to determine if it is clear that all sub-processes involved in a given edge break are included in the job audit, e.g. CNC edge break followed by abrasive flow. (DUE DATE: 1-Sep-10)
4.0STANDARDIZING INTERVIEW PROCESS – CLOSED
The CMSPTG reviewed the interview process. At this time the number of auditors is sufficient based on the number of planned audits and the feedback of Subscribers on anticipated audits in 2011. Implementation of best practices such as a pre-interview quiz and standard set of questions has been tabled.
5.0AUDIT REPORT REVIEW – CLOSED
Sarah Jordan reviewed the standardized Subscriber Audit Report Reviewer Guidelines and the CMSPTG specific recommendations. The first non-pilot audit and its results were discussed.
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to verify all Subscriber Voting members of the CMSPTG have appropriate access in eAuditNet to be able to ballot audits. (DUE DATE: 15-Jul-10)
6.0OBSERVATION AUDITS – OPEN
The procedure for audit observations (NOP-007) was reviewed, including the Observer Feedback form. Subscribers are encouraged to observe Nadcap audits.
7.0AUDITOR TRAINING WEBEX AND OCTOBER TRAINING – OPEN
Auditor training for CMSPTG will be Monday, October 18. Due to the size of the group, all Subscriber Voting Members are invited to attend the Q&A portion of the training session. The auditor training sub-team has a conference call scheduled for July 30. The content of the training is to include the five key parameters of machining control, examples of surface integrity problems, most common findings, voided NCR’s, and a review of Subscriber specifications.
ACTION ITEM: John Pfeiffer to analyze the checklists to determine which questions are most critical, which are most likely to produce nonconformances, and any with wording still needing to be clarified or the intent is not fully obvious. (DUE DATE:30-Jul-10)
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan is to request Subscribers provide feedback as to what are the most common findings in their experience during machining audits for incorporation into auditor training. (DUE DATE: 29-Jul-10)
8.0TASK GROUP NAME – OPEN
Following a PRI Board request for a name that more clearly reflects the scope of the commodity, the name was changed to Conventional Machining as a Special Process Task Group (CMSPTG).
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to ensure that the name is changed on the various PRI documents and in eAuditNet. (DUE DATE: 1-Sept-10)
9.0REVIEW P&O AGENDA – OPEN
The Planning & Ops agenda was reviewed for CMSPTG input to the planned items.
10.0OPENING COMMENTS/SUPPLIER ORIENTATION – OPEN
An introduction to CMSPTG and Nadcap was given to the suppliers in attendance. This included an overview of the group’s focus, checklists, and handbook. The presentations below were reviewed.
11.0STAFF REPORT – OPEN
There is not enough data currently available to report on the standard CMSPTG and NMC metrics. The status of mandates, currently scheduled audits, and auditor availability was reported.
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to add to add to the agenda for the October 2010 meeting the topic of increasing Subscriber participation. (DUE DATE: 1-Aug-10)
12.0RAIL REVIEW – OPEN
The action items from previous meetings were reviewed. The action item on creating specific questions for automatic and manual belt grinding has was postponed.
ACTION ITEM: The Auditor Training Sub-Team (John Pfeiffer, Ken Abram, and Nicolas Batista) will create training based on outline of topics. This includes reviewing Subscriber specifications, the most essential questions, abusive machining examples, auditors and CMSPTG members sharing their experiences. (DUE DATE: 1-Aug-10)
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to follow up with additional Subscribers on their interest in gear making checklists. (DUE DATE: 1-Aug-10)
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to report out at October 2010 meeting the status of Subscribers joining CMSPTG. (DUE DATE: 22-Oct-10)
ACTION ITEM: John Pfeifer to appoint a sub-team to determine if bearing manufacturing should be a method within grinding or if it is sufficiently different to warrant its own checklist. The sub-team will also generate any necessary additions or checklist modifications to address bearing manufacturing. (DUE DATE: 1-Sept-10)
13.0MEETING REPORTS – OPEN
The Planning & Ops meeting was reviewed. The major topics were the issue that on-site acceptance of NCR’s will no longer be allowed, the Nadcap Vision statement, and the future eAuditNet Checklist on Demand.
14.0REVIEW OF HOLE POST-FINISHING PROCESSES QUESTIONS FOR AC7126/1 – OPEN
John Pfeiffer reviewed the changes that he thought were necessary to address Hole Post-finishing (jig grinding, abrasive flow, and honing of holes). The CMSPTG decided to incorporate these as new methods in AC7126/1 during the next revision.
The CMSPTG decided to work on revising AC7126 and AC7126/1. The other slash sheets will be revised in the future. The CMSPTG reviewed the list of suggested changes for incorporation into the revision.
ACTION ITEM: John Pfeifer to propose wording for question modifications and additional questions to AC7126 and AC7126/1 to address Hole Post-finishing. (DUE DATE: 1-Aug-10)
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to request CMSPTG members for any additional revision suggestions. (DUE DATE: 30-Jul-10)
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to incorporate revisions into the appropriate checklist document. (DUE DATE: 15-Aug-10)
15.0CMSPTG AUDIT HANDBOOK – OPEN
The CMSPTG continued adding Audit Handbook clarifications and defining “Not Applicable. The current version is available on eAuditNet.
ACTION ITEM: Sarah Jordan to incorporate the checklist number into each handbook reference. (DUE DATE: 15-Aug-10)
16.0ITEMS REQUIRING TASK GROUP RESOLUTION – OPEN
The CMSPTG reviewed several issues requiring resolution or clarification.
- For Job audits with no current production, the Staff Engineer will encourage broadening the scope to other Subscribers as long as it is controlled and address on a case by case basis.
- The details of what is required in the case of questions requiring a procedure will be addressed in the Audit Handbook.
- The scope of AC7126 question #16.2 on metallographic testing was clarified to address all data submitted to or performed for the customer.
17.0REVIEW OF BELT GRINDING CHECKLIST QUESTIONS – OPEN
The review of belt grinding was postponed until the October 2010 meeting.
18.0PROCEDURE REVIEW – OPEN
The Supplier Advisory Procedure (NOP-006) and the Audit Failure Procedure (NOP-011) were reviewed.
19.0NEW BUSINESS – OPEN
The next conference calls are scheduled for July 13 at 10:30 (GMT-4) and September 23 at 10:00 (GMT-4).
20.0TOPICS & PRESENTERS FOR OCTOBER 2010 AGENDA – OPEN
The CMSPTG will be meeting October 19-22, 2010 in Pittsburgh. The agenda will include a brief Supplier overview and training on a technical topic.
ACTION ITEM: John Pfeiffer to create Supplier tutorial on a technical topic such as Proper Cutting Tool Management. (DUE DATE: 15-Sept-10)
ADJOURNMENT – JUNE 24, 2010 – Meeting was adjourned at 6:00 p.m.
Minutes Prepared by: Nicolas Batista from SAFRAN, ()
***** For PRI Staff use only: ******Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)
YES* NO
*If yes, the following information is required:
Documents requiring revision: / Who is responsible: / Due date:
Editorial change to all documents to reflect name change / Sarah Jordan / 1-Sept-10
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