COMMITTEE ON REFINERY EQUIPMENT

JOINT MEETING

CRE Subcommittee on Electrical Equipment

Manufacturers & Contractors Subcommittee on Electrical Equipment

Louis Barrios, Chairman

InterContinental Hotel

New Orleans, LA

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 (8:00am – 12:00pm)

Meeting Minutes

Daniel Adjetey / BP / Non-Voter
Louis Barrios / Shell Global Solutions / Voter
Kurt Concienne / Chevron / Non-Voter
Gabe D’Alleva / ExxonMobil / Non-Voter
John Dulas / ABB Automation, Inc. / Voter
Donald Dunn / Aramco Services Company / Voter
Lin Duquette / Alliance Pipeline / Voter
Dan Eaton / Marathon Petroleum / Voter
Mark Fanslow / TECO Westinghouse / Voter
Mark Goodman / Jacobs Engineering / Voter
Travis Griffith / GE Oil & Gas / Voter
Paul Hamer / Chevron / Voter
E. R. Hamilton / Chevron / Non-Voter
Mike Henry / Shell / Non-Voter
Norb Klekowski / BP / Voter
Bill Lockley / Lockley Engineering / Voter
Victor Minak / Exxon Mobil / Voter
Art Neubauer / Arseal Technolgies / Non-Voter
Jerry Pittman / Valero Energy Corp. / Voter
David Rains / WEG / Voter
John Rama / Siemens / Voter
Mark Saldana / BP / Non-Voter
Barry Wood / Chevron / Non-Voter
Craig Wylie / Electric Machinery / Voter
  1. Introductions and Attendance Registration

A.Review membership roster

1.The separate rosters for operator/user and manufacturer/general interest have now been combined into a single roster.

  1. Minutes of September 2007 Meeting in Calgary

A.Travis Griffith moved to accept the minutes as written, Donald Dunn seconded. Motion approved unanimously approved.

  1. Old Business
  2. TechnicalInquiries
  3. No new inquiries.
  1. Liaison Reports
  2. Interdepartmental Advisory Group (IAG) (Mark Goodman)
  3. NEC proposals due 11/7/2008. IAG will discuss new proposals in September at PCIC.

a)Non-shielded cable only permitted up to 2.4 kV vs. 8 kV. Exemption for aircraft lighting was adopted inthe 2008 NEC.

b)Future issues that will be considered:

(1)Bonding of rebar.

(2)Dual process seals (canned pumps, etc.)

  1. NFPA 70 - Code Panel 14, Article 500 (Mark Goodman/Dave Burns)
  2. Same as above
  3. NFPA 70 - Code Panel 11, Article 430 (Paul Hamer/Art Neubauer)
  4. No activity since last meeting.
  5. NFPA 70E – Std for Electrical Safety in the Workplace (Paul Hamer/Louis Barrios)
  6. 500 proposalsand 800 comments were submitted last year. API comments favorably received.
  7. Action: Add presentation on changes to SOEE agenda for Cincinnati meeting. Louis or Paul will present. Dan Eaton.
  8. Presentation on 70E changes provided by Paul Hamer:
  9. NFPA 780 - Lightning Protection Code (Victor Minak)
  10. Most recent standard issued
  11. ROP February 2009. Proposals due in December
  12. API 545 committee will submit proposals on behalf of API. Action: proposals will be submitted to SOEE for approval. Victor Minak.
  13. The task force is seeking expertise on protecting wind turbines from lightning strikes. Blades being damaged by lightning.
  14. NFPA 496/497/499 (Open)
  15. No current API membership
  16. 499: OSHA has set the permissible level for combustible dusts at no-detectable fines for sugar refineries.This may not be technically feasible David Raines
  17. PIP (Louis Barrios)
  18. Meeting next week.
  19. New practices:

a)Cable bus

b)VRLA batteries in draft

c)Power transformers out for comments.

d)Automatic transfer schemes for secondary selective substations

e)Motor installations for Class 1 Div 1 areas.

f)Electrical construction specifications.

  1. Action: attach spreadsheet. Louis to provide.
  1. IEEE/PCIC (Paul Hamer)
  2. Travis Griffith: IEEE 1068 Motor Repair. Balloted 90% response 80%approval. Three negative ballots were received, twowere editorial in nature. One was from a committee member. 168 negative comments. Working group addressing negative comments. Hope to resolve by Fall PCIC meeting. A proposed paper on 1068 has withdrawn and postponed to the 2009 PCIC.
  3. IEEE 841 Balloted. Fournegative received three resolved. One remaining to be resolved.Will be re-balloted mid May. Paper to be presented at PCIC.
  4. P1714 Recommended Practice for Industrial UPS. Led by Donald Dunn.
  5. IEEE 1683 Increased Safety MCC (Action Item: Add update: Dan Eaton.)
    The group has divided into several task groups focused on individual sections. TG3 is working on testing and diagnostics. Overall progress has been slow. Web meetings are being conducted at the task group level every two to three months. The next meeting of the full group will be in Cincinnati at the PCIC.
  6. IEC Motor Working Group - Paul Hamer
  7. IEEE 303 Auxiliary Devices in Div 2/Zone 2 Areas. Up for revision. Travis Griffith.
  8. 1566 New PAR by Fall PCIC. Bill Lockley.
  9. ACC (Louis Barrios)
  10. Discussion on a US industrial based electrical code. Similar to Canadian code.
  11. Code proposals for 2011 NEC
  1. Task Force Reports
  2. NEC 500/505 & RP500/505 (Mark Goodman/Paul Hamer)
  3. Mark G. Met this week. Ballot version should go to API in a few weeks. Ballot group primarily SOEE and IAG. Comments will be solicited from other non-refining groups in API. Comments to be reviewed at PCIC. Action: Provide copy of both “clean” and “track changes” version for download on API web site. Mark G. and Gordon Robinson.
  4. RP505 will follow.
  5. Standards 541, 546, & 547 (Barry Wood)
  6. Std. 546 3rd edition submitted to API for publishing.
  7. Std. 541, met this week Monday and Tuesday to begin Rev 5. 20 – 22 attended. The group is incorporating changes that apply from 546. Review additional changes at PCIC. Possibly ready for ballot draft after fall meeting. Considering adding high speed (above 3600 RPM) motors to standard.
  8. RP 540 – Elec. Installations at Petroleum Facilities (Donald Dunn/Travis Griffith)

Current section leads:Section 1 – Introduction - Donald Dunn

Section 2 - Classified Locations or Electrical Equipment – Mark Goodman

Section 3 - Electrical Energy Efficiency - Gabe D’Alleva

Section 4 – Facility Power Systems - Royce King

Section 5 – Grounding and Lighting Protection – Paul Hamer and Roy Hamilton

Section 6 – Motors and Controllers - Paul Hamer and Norb Klekowski

Section 7 - Lighting - Donald Dunn

Section 8 – Wiring - Steve Kovacs

Section 9 – Power Systems for Instrumentation and Process Control - Dan Eaton

Section 10 - Special Equipment - Donald Dunn

Section 11 – Inherent Electrical Safety - Louis Barrios

New Section:) Designing for Disaster Planning and Recovery – Louis Barrios (SOEE recommends against inclusion

  1. Reviewed sections 2 and 6.
  2. The SOEE voted and a majority does not support adding Section 11 for disaster recovery. Action: Louis will inquire of the CRE if there is a directive to add this section.
  3. Action: Donald will schedule 2 conference calls with section leads to review status.
  4. Section leads should send revisions to Donald 2 weeks before PCIC.
  1. Standard 545 - Lightning Protection (Victor Minak)
  2. Met Monday. Rev 0 generated. Web meetings scheduled to generate rev 1 for review at PCIC. Review with API tank subcommittee at Fall API meeting. Action: Victor M. will forward a request to Gordon Robinson to add ½ day to NovemberAPI refining meeting with Tank Task Group. (Note: Dan Eaton submitted a meeting room request Monday morning for API 545).
  1. Other Business
  2. Cincinnati PCIC Fall 2008 Schedule
  3. RP545 Thursday, September 18 all day.
  4. RP500/505/NEC Proposals Friday, September 19.
  5. SOEE/RP540 Saturday, September 20 - ½ day am
  6. Std. 541 Thursday, September 18 and Friday, September 19 all day.

B.API Fall Refining Meeting November 10 Los Angeles

  1. RP 545 and Tank Group ½ day. First Day

C.API Spring Refining MeetingLocation - TBD Denver, CO, April 27 - 29

  1. RP 545 Monday all day.
  2. RP500/505/NEC Proposals Tuesday.
  3. SOEE/RP540 Wednesday ½ day am
  4. Std. 541 Monday and Tuesday all day
  1. SOEE Round Table Discussion
  2. Discussion on AR Switchgear and other protection techniques.
  3. VRLA Batteries
  4. Vehicle access to Class 1 Div 2 areas.
  1. Adjournment

A.Travis Griffith (representing Steve Kovacs) moved to adjourn, Norb Klekowski seconded. Meeting adjourned at 10:30 AM