TUESDAY, 08 MAY 2018
[No. 10/2018] FIFTH SESSION, FIFTH LEGISLATURE
KWAZULU-NATAL LEGISLATURE
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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
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TUESDAY, 08MAY 2018
The House met at 09h10
1.09h11Members were given an opportunity for silent prayers or
meditation.
2.09h13The Speaker made announcements.
3.09h15The Speaker read into the record the tabling of the following reports:
3.1Portfolio Committee on Community Safety and Liaison
3.1.1Report of the Portfolio Committee on Community Safety and Liaison, 2018.
3.1.2Report by the Portfolio Committee on Community Safety and Liaison on the 2016/17 Annual Report of the Department of Community Safety and Liaison dated 12 February 2018; and
3.1.3Report by the Portfolio Committee on Community Safety and Liaison on its Study Tour: Santiago De Chile and Ghana.
3.2Portfolio Committee on Public Works
3.2.1Report by the Portfolio Committee on Public Works on its Study Tour to the Russian Federation.
4.09h20The following Reports were tabled:
4.1Mr SC Nkosi tabledthe Budget Report of the Finance Portfolio Committee on Vote 6.
4.2Ms NN Sibhidla-Saphetha tabled the Report by the Portfolio Committee on Transport on the Budget and Annual Performance Plan.
4.3Mr MB Ntuli tabled the Report by the Portfolio Committee on Community Safety and Liaison on the 2016/17 Annual Report of the Department of Community Safety and Liaison dated 12 February 2018.
5.09h24The Speaker made announcements.
6.09h25The following members gave notice of their intention to move
motions on the next sitting day of the House.
6.1Ms NN Boyce, ANC, to move:
This House notes:
The inauthentic reports, purported to be extractsfrom the Auditor-General’s report regarding the outcome of Cape Town Metro, by two DA Members of Parliament; and
That this report was rejected as being inauthentic by the Office of the Auditor-General yesterday.
The House therefore resolves:
To call on all legislatures to develop programmesaimed at building ethical and moral conduct amongst its members so that they may cease to be part of agendas that bringinto disrepute any institutions that are mentioned in Chapters 9 and 10 of the Constitution of the RSA which exist specifically to support our democracy.
6.2Mr R R Pillay, ANC, to move:
This House notes:
The reported disagreement within the Democratic Alliance on diversity, white privilege and black poverty and the reported divisions along racial lines.
This House therefore resolves:
To nevertheless welcome and encourage the DA’s reluctant engagement with the real issues facing South Africa because those are the contradictions that must be resolved in order for South Africa to move forward.
The ANC of course has long passed that point and is busy with practical implementation.
6.3MrFARodgers, DA, to move:
This House notes:
Dr Julia Kirkby’s recent caring actions, above and beyond the call of duty,towards a young mother Suz-Lee Ka Nogaga and her daughter Emihle at the Charlotte Maxeke Hospital, which have gone viral on media platforms;
As Suz-Lee said of Dr Kirkby: “I will never forget what she did for my daughter. And when she grows up, I’ll tell her about this guardian angel.Who knows, maybe that will inspire her to become a doctor just like beautiful Dr Julia.”
This House therefore resolves:
To recognise and note with pride the recent actions of Pietermaritzburg-born Dr Julia Kirkby as they encapsulate nation-building through Ubuntu.
6.4Mr V R Mlotshwa, NFP, to move:
LeNdlu iyakunaka:
Ubudedengu ubudlabha nobunswelaboya obenziwe uSomlomo wasoKhahlamba Local Municipality ukube asuke athathe izibhamu zoMkhandlu, athinsizeke eqonde esiqiwini afike avulele ngenhlamvu edubula izimpofu ngoba efuna inyama nje bese indaba yakhe inyathelwe ngezinyawo.
Ngakho-ke leNdlu inquma kanje:
Ukuba uMhlonishwa uMxolisi Kaunda enze uphenyo alandelele e-Police Station yase-Oliviershoek bese ebopha isigilamkhuba esiwuSomlomo.
[This House notes:
The thoughtlessness, blundering and malfeasance committed by the Speaker of Ukhahlamba Local Municipality who took municipal firearms to a game reserve where he shot antelope for meat after which the matter was simply swept under the carpet.
This House therefore resolves:
To call on MEC Mxolisi Kaunda to investigate [the matter] and follow up with Oliviershoek Police Station with a view to arresting the Speaker who has committed a criminal act.]
6.5Mr V Ndlovu, EFF, to move:
LeNdlu iyakunaka ukuthi:
Ukwehluka kakhulu kuka President Ramaphosa kuno Mr Zuma ekulwisaneni nenkohlakalo.
Siyakunaka ukuxoshwa noma ukungavikelwa kwalabo abahlisa imali kahulumeni ngemilenze.
Nesenzo sakamuva sokungenelela kuhulumeni wase-North West ifuna elikhulu ihlombe, futhi kumele kube yisifundo ukuthi uma uyisela izinsuku zakho zibaliwe.
Abantu base-North West bayizibonelo ekulwisaneni nenkohlakalo.
Ngakho-ke le Ndlu inquma kanje:
Ukukhipha wonke amasela akade entshontsha ngesikhathi sika-Mr Zuma abhekane nengalo yomthetho #amasela mawawe.
[This House notes:
The stark difference between President Ramaphosa and Mr Zuma’s style of fighting corruption;
The dismissals and exposés of those who are caught stealing from the government;
The recent decision to intervene in the North West provincial government deserves a big applause, and needs to sound a warning to thieves that their days are numbered.
This House therefore resolves:
To call for all thieves who were stealing during Mr Zuma’s term of office to be dismissed and face the full might of the law - #thieves must fall.]
6.6Ms L C Bebee, ANC, to move:
Le Ndlu:
Ukuncoma uMnyango ka-Treasury oholwa nguMhlonishwa u-Belinda Scott kanye no-HoD Magagula [ngokushayela ihlombe] ngokuphucula izimpilo zabantu, bebambisene neKomidi lika-Quality of Life eliholwa uMhlonishwa u-Tambo ngokuhambisa izinsiza [imishini yokuthunga] zokuzithuthukisa kwama-inmates aseNcome e-Vryheid kanye ne-Lethukuthula Co-operative.
Ngakho-ke leNdlu inquma kanje:
Ukunxenxa osomabhizinisi ukufaka isandla ekuthuthukiseni ama-correctional services ngezinhlelo zentuthuko.
[This House:
Applauds Provincial Treasury, headed up by MEC Belinda Scott and HoD Magagula,for improving the lives of our people, as well as the Standing Committee on Quality of Life under the leadership of hon Tambo who delivered resources [sewing machines] for the development of inmates at the Ncome Correctional Centre and working with the Lethukuthula Co-operative.
This House therefore resolves:
To call on all businesses to contribute to the development of Correctional Services through development initiatives.]
6.7Bishop E V Dube, ANC, to move:
LeNdlu iqaphela:
Izigameko ezinyantisayo zokusha kwezakhiwo ezihlalise abantu bakithi abamnyama eKhayalitsha (abantu baswele eKapa)
Ozibonele uthi usasizwa namanje isililo sabantwana beqedwa umlilo.
I-DA izishaya izifuba ngokuphatha abantu baseKapa.
Ngakho-ke le Ndlu inquma kanje:
I-DA ake yakhele abantu izakhiwo ezibafanele iyeke ukulwisana no Patricia De Lille ngenxa yokuba elwela ukunakekela abantu abamnyama;
Kungabandlululwa abantu bakithi.;
I-DA ayibe nozwelo noma idedele i-ANC ekwazi ukunakekela izidingo zabantu.
[This House notes:
The shocking incidents of torching housing structures belonging to black people in Khayelitsha (poor people in Cape Town);
An eyewitness says one can still hear the children crying in that fire; and
Yet the DA prides itself on delivering good governance in Cape Town.
This House therefore resolves:
To call on the DA to build proper and decent houses for people and stop fighting Patricia de Lille because she is fighting for black people;
To call for an end to discrimination against certain people; and
To call on the DA to show some compassion or else allow the ANC to govern, because at least the ANC knows how to care for people.]
6.8Mr Z M Mncwango, DA, to move:
Le Ndlu inaka:
Umgijimi we-Comrades Marathon u-Vusi Msibi ushayiswe imoto yoMkhandlu weTheku ngomhlaka 16 ku-April.
Owazibonela uyasho ukuthi imoto yakwa-Metro Police yabonakala endaweni yesigameko.
Umshayeli walemoto wabaleka endaweni yesigameko.
Ngakho-ke le Ndlu inquma kanje:
Ukucela uMkhandlu weTheku ukuthi usungule uphenyo ngomshayeli wemoto.
Amaphoyisa ase-South Africa nabezobulungiswa bathathe izinyathelo ngokushesha.
[This House notes:
That Comrades Marathon runner, Vusi Msibi, was hit by a municipal vehicle from eThekwini on 16 April 2018;
That, according to an eyewitness, a metro police vehicle was spotted at the accident scene; and
That the driver of the vehicle fled the accident scene.
This House therefore resolves:
To call on eThekwini Municipality to institute an investigation into the driver of the vehicle;
To call on the SA Police Service and law-enforcement agencies to take urgent action.]
6.9Ms P H Khuzwayo, NFP:
This motion was ruled out of order as it had exceeded the maximum length of 100 words, as laid down by Rule 98 (1) of the Standing Rules of the KwaZulu-Natal Legislature.
6.10Ms N M Khoza, ANC, to move:
This House notes:
The KZN Director-General’s commitment to take responsibility for the Durban sisters alleged to have been abused by Pastor Amotoso.
This House therefore resolves:
To applaud the DG’s decisiveness and initiative to intervene in this matter;
To declare war on anyone who abuses another person;
To warn all hypocritical izimpisi [hyenas] who cover themselves ngezikhumba zezimvu [in sheep skins]under the guise of being pastors, while abusing and destroying society instead of guiding it along the righteous path; and
To call on all men and women to fight abuse in general, butany abuse of women and children in particular, wherever and whenever it occurs.
6.11Mr H S Gumbi, DA, to move:
This House notes:
The ongoing prevalence of violence against women and children in South Africa;
That the ANC continues to keep a convicted abuser of women, former [Deputy] Minister of Higher Education and Training, Mduduzi Manana, in high office in Parliament; and
That, once again, this convicted woman abuser is embroiled in another abuse scandal involving his domestic worker.
This House therefore resolves:
To call on the ANC to finally take the fight against people who abuse women seriously by removing Manana from within their ranks; and
To call on the SAPS to investigate these allegations, irrespective of the case having been withdrawn under suspicious circumstances.
6.12Mr B V Hlengwa, ANC, to move:
LeNdlu iyakunaka:
Ukudicilelwa phansi kwesithunzi samaKhansela e-DAokwenzeke zintathu kwephezulu lapho ubuholi besiShayamthetho saleNdlu (KZN) buye bathatha umsebenzi okufanele ngabe wenziwa amakhansela abo emikhandlwini enjengoMsunduzi naseThekwini bazowuxoxa kwinkulumo-mpikiswano yalesi siShayamthetho.
Lokhu kuthumela umyalezo wokuthi abasawethembi amakhansela abo futhi kuyakhombisa ukuthi asezulelwa amanqe uma kungenjalo kusho ukuthi bona laba baholi (DA) sebedidekile ngokufanele bakhulume ngakho.
Ngakho-ke leNdlu inquma kanje:
Ukuba uNgqongqoshe Wezokubusa Ngokubambisana nobuholi beNdabuko (COGTA) abheke ukuthi lamakhansela asakufanele yini ukuhola imali yabakhokhi bentela noma-ke bona abaholi be-DA abadingi yini ukululekwa.
[This House notes:
The way in which DA councillorswere undermined on 3 May 2018 whenDA leaders who are members of this House debated matters that are meant to be debated by councillors of municipalities such as uMsunduzi and eThekwini Metro;
This sent out a clear message that they no longer trust their councillors, and is a clear indication that their days are numbered; if that is not the case, then these leaders are confused and have no idea which issues they are meant to discuss.
This House therefore resolves:
To call on the MEC for Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairsto determine if these councillors still deserve to earn salaries or whether it is a clear case of DA leadership needing to be counselled.]
6.13Dr R Viranna, DA, to move:
This House notes:
The hundreds of teachers from Natu and Sadtu who protested outside this House during the Education Budget Vote;
They protested against various problems within the department, including the non-payment of 6000 Grade R teachers and the gross mismanagement of the sanitary towel tender;
The arrogance of MEC Dlungwana who refused to meet, address or receive amemorandum from the protesters; and
The MEC’s empty so-called “caring concern”.
This House therefore resolves:
To call on the MEC to urgently deliver an executive statement in the House on the payment of teachers in mitigation of the department’s financial challenges.
6.14Ms A M McDonnell, DA, to move:
This House notes:
That political intolerance has not place in our province;
That according to by-laws, all political parties have a duty to book municipal facilities; and
That the arrogant ANC manhandled DA youth members at a venue which the DA had booked legally.
This House therefore resolves:
To instruct the leadership of the ANC in KwaZulu-Natal to sanction BEC members, including Mayor Mgenge of uMfolozi, for physically attacking a DA councillor when he showed him proof of the booking of the venue.
7.09h50The Speaker made announcements.
8.09h51The Speaker left the Chair.
9.09h52The House resolved itself into the Committee of Supply and the debate on Vote 9: Community Safety and Liaison commenced and was concluded at 12h25.
10.12h26The Speaker made announcements.
11.12h30The debate on Vote 12: Transport commenced and was concluded at 15h12.
12.15h13The Speaker made announcements.
13.15h14The debate on Vote 6: Provincial Treasury commenced and was concluded at 17h12.
14.17h13The Chairperson gave a report on the Committee of Supply and sought leave to sit again.
Leave granted.
15.17h15The House was adjourned until, Wednesday, 09 May 2018 at 14h00.
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