Apr 2012doc.: IEEE 11-12-0488-00-000ac

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

TGac teleconference minutes – 20120405
Date: 2012-04-05
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
David Xun Yang / Huawei Technologies / F1, Huawei Industrial Base, Bantian, Longgang District, Shenzhen, China / +8615914117462 /

Abstract

This document contains the meeting minutes of the IEEE 802.11ac teleconference on 2012-04-05.

Teleconference time: 2012-04-05, 10:00 ET

Attendees present:

  • Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei) – Chair
  • Robert Stacey (Apple) – Editor
  • David Xun Yang (Huawei) – Secretary
  • Reza Hedayat (Cisco)
  • Brian Hart (Cisco)
  • Allan Zhu (Samsung)
  • Minho Cheong (ETRI)
  • Jae Seung Lee (ETRI)
  • Dave Halasz (Motorola)
  • Simone Merlin (Qualcomm)
  • Allert van Zelst (Qualcomm)
  • Youhan Kim (Qualcomm)
  • Yong Liu (Marvell)
  • Sun Bo (ZTE)
  • James Wang (MediaTek)
  • Adrian Stephens (Intel)
  • Jing-Rong Hsieh (HTC)
  • Mark Rison (CSR)
  • Nihar Jindal (Broadcom)
  • Dick Roy (?)
  • Peter Loc (Huawei)
  • Liwen Chu (ST)
  • Valentine Aikens (Western Digital)

Agenda:

  • Review of IEEE 802 & 802.11 Polices and Procedures.
  • Comments Resolution
  • 11-12-0480-00-00ac-resolutions-to-comments-on-9-28-Link-Adaptation.docx - Allertvan Zelst (Qualcomm)
  • 11-12-0484-00-00ac-sub-clause 9.19 Comments Resolutions (Part 2) - Allan Zhu (Samsung)
  • 11-12-0474-02-00ac-sub-clause 9.19 Comments Resolutions (Part 1) - Allan Zhu (Samsung)
  • 11-12-0475-01-00ac-lb-187-pics-related-comments.docx - Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei)

The Chairman calls the meeting to order at 2012-04-05at 10:03 ET.

The Chairman asks if anybody not familiar with IEEE policy. No response noted.

The Chairman calls for potential essential patents. No one responds to the call and no claims are broughtforward.

The Chairman reminds all attendees to take attendance by sending email to David, or Osama, .

The Chairman reminds all presenters to state their name and affiliation before they speak.

The Chairman reminds all attendees to be close to the phone when speaking, and mute the phone in other cases.

There are 50 people approved the epoll. Most people will attend the meeting. The Chairman further reminds the left peopleto go to the epoll if he/she plans to attend the meeting.

The Chairman outlines the agenda of this teleconference and calls for updating the agenda. No objection to proceed with the order of the agenda.

11-12-0480-00-00ac-resolutions-to-comments-on-9-28-Link-Adaptation.docx (Allertvan Zelst, Qualcomm)

Allert presented

4196, 4961, 5378

Mark (CSR): We require more time to take a look at the document, since we joined the call just now.

Allert: I can give a quick summary of this resolution.

(CSR): What if the receiver sends MCS beyond the capability of the transmitter?

Allert: The limitation is only for N_STS.

No objection was noted for the comment resolutions to CIDs4196, 4961 and 5378.

11-12-0484-00-00ac-sub-clause 9.19 Comments Resolutions (Part 2) (Allan Zhu, Samsung)

Allan presented

4162, 4163,

Adrian: REVmb spent a lot of time to modify the language. I would suggest the group not to change the baseline easily.

4665, 4539, 4667,

Brian: For CID 4539, I think the commenter is correct.

Adrian: I disagree. The spec should specify something you can do but not something you cannot do.

Adrian: The change for CID 4667 has no value.

Kaiying: It is not a new comment actually.

Mark: Kaiying, can you remind me which change we already agreed?

Kaiying: P133L10, Draft 2.1.

Simone: Look at P132L35 and L56, D2.0, it is not correct to say that receiving a segment means a correctly frame receiving.

Osama: Can we take this one offline?

4618

Jing: ? (Intermittent statement due to the network quality)

Allan: Are you going to defer this one?

Jing: Yes. I can send you the email for discussion.

4407, 4165

No objection was noted for the comment resolutions to CIDs4162, 4163, 4665, 4539,4407 and 4165.

The comment resolutions to CIDs4667 and 4618 were deferred.

11-12-0474-02-00ac-sub-clause 9.19 Comments Resolutions (Part 1) (Allan Zhu, Samsung)

Allan presented

4831

Mark: I am OK with removing the words.

Arian: I disagree with the inserted sentence. Adding "only" is better.

Allan: In the discussion last week, more people prefer to use TC.

Yong: It is very clear that each A-MPDU contains frames from the same TID. I don't think it is necessary to emphasize it here.

Osama: We can make this CID open.

The comment resolution to CID 4831was deferred.

11-12-0475-01-00ac-lb-187-pics-related-comments.docx (Osama Aboul-Magd, Huawei)

Osama presented

4127(Y)

Adrian: We need to discuss this case for 10 minutes. In REVmb, HTM5.5 is mandatory. So change it to PC37: M.

Adrian: A-MPDU is mandatory. I wonder if the duration rule also works for single A-MPDU case.

Osama: I will upload a new version to the server for more discussion.

No objection was noted for the comment resolution to CID 4127.

The meeting was adjourned at 12:00 ET.

Submissionpage 1David Xun Yang (Huawei)