GALENICALS COMMITTEE MEETING Agenda

Anson Rooms, 4th October 2015

Present

Chloë de Souza (CdS)

Andrew Armson (AA)

Amy Samson (AS)

Anjie Mosuro (AM)

Ted Caplan (TC)

Caitlin Biliyard (CB)

Tom Lyons (TL)

Jo Miles (JM)

Lauran Noël (LN)

Emma Sanders (ES)

Eliane Blows (EB)

Ollie King (OK)

Alex Hunter (AL)

Jonny Bray (JB)

Jagrati Chopra (JC)

Shamus Butt (SB)

Apologies

None.

1. Matters Arising from Previous Minutes

None.

2. President Matters

  • General reminders
  • Protest
  • Get involved BRI press college green,
  • Understand that we are saturated with junior doctor contract related things at the moment, however we should keep pushing the issue. Share it on Facebook as much as you can and attend if you can!
  • Faculty, huge political stance, faculty cannot commit
  • Placement policy
  • Opt in scheme
  • To help those in financial hardship
  • Approved!
  • A great achievement, which will be part of our legacy as a committee
  • GMC visit
  • May 10th and 11th (should be in everyone’s diaries already!)
  • GMC will also visit for one day in March to see the 5th years
  • Acknowledge its exam time when the visit happens, however travel will be reimbursed
  • If you have any issues, please feed them back to the faculty before the GMC interview
  • The survey for GMC has been sent out, we have till Nov 6th to complete it
  • Please complete it, it is extremely important, also encourage others to do so
  • AP: ALLto complete GMC survey
  • Student support proposal
  • AP – all read by Tuesday and send a brief summary containing two positive points and two points for improvementto CdS
  • Committee 16/17
  • CdS been in touch with the Dentists
  • They have a huge alumni group, which we desire to attain
  • Conversely, wehave many charities and do a lot of charity work, which they [dentists] aspire
  • We can complement each other – our strengths off set their weaknesses and vice-versa
  • We look after 1,400 students and have committee of 16
  • Whereas the dentists have a society of 450/500 and have a committee of 36
  • Part of the reason why they have so many committee members is because they are split between here and Langford
  • CdS spoke to the BMA reps about potentially having a BMA rep seat on the society
  • The BMA reps we have for the university:
  • Harrison Carter chairs national BMA
  • Tom Cassidy and Natasha Bennons deal with national welfare issues. Theytake the local issues to the national platform
  • Therefore the BMA reps and the Galenicals president (CdS) need to be connected in order to have a route to enable the communicating of things from a local level to the national level
  • CdS: As it stands, there could be more communication
  • For example Tom Rock really got involved in resolving financial hardship issues for Bristol BMA
  • Because of his positionhe had a lot of info to share with CdS which she was not privy to because people came to him in his capacity as BMA rep
  • CdS: If BMA rep became an available position, it would not be elected by the student body
  • CdS: the person occupying the role would really help with student welfare and thebig issues
  • CdS: their obligations to the committee would differ slightly, to that of other committee members. In that they would not be obligated to fully engage with the galenicals stuff. Their role would be more to do with enhancing communication between Galenicals and the BMA on a national level
  • CdS: we run Arpil to April and BMA run June to June. Which may pose to be logistically tricky
  • EB: How is it done in other universities? Do they havea BMA rep seat on their committee?
  • CdS: In other universities a BMA rep does sit on the committee
  • Cds: BMA reps tend to be very busy, they have to attend national meetings among other things and they’re usually fifth years, so have finals and exams to revise for
  • AS: Could we employ an opt out system so they are offered an invite and can decide whether or not to come?
  • CdS: Yes, we don’t want to make it obligatory to come to everything, seeing as they are not elected by the student body
  • CdS raises the motion: Should we have a seat on the committee for a BMA rep?
  • All voted in favour.
  • SponsorshipSecretary:
  • CdS: Sponsorship is a huge part of what we spend our time doing
  • CdS: Many people want to be involved with us, because we are such a big society
  • CdS: Given that its a big role, it can be said that there is room for it, as perhaps not a role not a role on its own, but combined with the current shows and sponsorship role
  • CdS: It would take a lot off the plate for other society members who already have such a lot to do
  • CdS: It would be great for sponsors to have a familiar face to liaise with
  • CdS: More money could be made for this society this way too, as someone will dedicate their energy to generating sponsors
  • CdS: In making the booklets, it was a last minute rush to get sponsors on board but they also were very keen to get on board
  • CdS: This role would have to deal with DHB bookings all year but would also have to deal with sponsors
  • OK: this does streamline things. In organising to have the t-shirts made I encountered some issues because I was not able to access all the information on our sponsors
  • TC: I think it’s a very important role, because in terms of organising events, it makes it more difficult because one has to not only organise the eventsbut also find sponsors

TC: Another reason why it’s a good ideal is because it allows the exec committees within Galenicals(i.e. sports, intl., charities) to easily source sponsors for events

TC: the sponsorship sec would work closely with the treasurer and streamline things. It makes a lot of sense

  • CdS: Perhaps sponsorship should be limited to the exec societies and not the sub societies as It would be too huge
  • TL: Will there be a new role in the committee for a sponsorship sec next year?
  • CdS: I propose shows and sponsorship sec and not a completely separate role for sponsorship
  • JC: I think maybe separate roles would be better because eah position requires different skill sets. E.g. For shows you need someone more outgoing in naturebecause they have to manage CLIC and PCR and for sponsorship you need someone with financial acumen
  • CdS: I disagree with JC because you need people skills and social aptitude to be sponsorship sec. If someone just wanted to do finances and hit the books they’d apply to be treasurer
  • EB seeks clarification on the role and responsibilities of the shows and events rep
  • OK: For PCR, CLIC and clinical Revue I just oversee things…they’re longstanding events so they pretty much run themselves
  • CdS: Workload won’t overlap as the majority of the work for the sponsorship sec occurs over the summer when securing sponsorship and working with the webmaster to produce the booklet
  • OK: I don’t think the work load of the sponsorship sec and shows rep would over lap as the bulk of the events occur in the spring term
  • AM: I certainly think that one individual would be able to easily manage the responsibilities of a shows and sponsorship sec
  • TC: if there was a role, then the president wouldn’t have to go out and invest so much time into running around and meeting sponsors the treasurer and sponsorship sec could go in her stead
  • CdS concurs with TC statement
  • TL: Nobody is contesting the fact that the sponsorship sec is a useful addition, we need to know if it should be a role on its own or joint with shows
  • CdS raises the motion: Should we have a seat on the committee for a sponsorship sec or should we redefine the role of shows rep so that it includes sponsorship (shows and sponsorship rep)?
  • 9 vote in avour: TC, TL, JC, CB, OK, JB, JM, AS, AH
  • CdS: Does any have any roles to suggest?
  • EB: Why do we not have a student ambassador for mature students
  • CdS: we have course reps for intercalators and mature medics have a rep (one for preclinical and one for clinical) it is perhaps not very well known, as last year was the first year it was launched.
  • OK: what would a mature rep do?
  • CB: I am not entirely sure mature students need a rep as they are very confident in approaching the faculty themselves
  • EB: It is true that mature students often don’t engage with the rest of their cohort
  • JM: It’s likely because they have done it all before…
  • CB: I personally, would not want to hang with younger students if I were a mature medic
  • CdS: I am not sure what their role would involve…It is not possible for us to have reps forindividual age groups
  • EB: Yes, I agree
  • Curriculum review
  • CdS: We should all be aware that there is a massive review going on, and the faculty wanted and still want lots of student input
  • CdS: Students have been invited to an additional 8 panels
  • CdS: the faulty are planning to set up a focus group which will focus on all the relevant elements of different panels for students to give an opinion on
  • If anyonehas a burning desire to get involved in the focus group, alertCdS, AS or AA
  • CdS: If you don’t graduate before 2016 the changes to the curriculum will affect you
  • CdS: Finals and electives will be done differently, some big differences and lots of exciting changes
  • CdS encourages all committee members to really engage with the process
  • CdS: We [presidential team] are planning to have year reps involved in the focus group, whoever else wants to get involved, let me know
  • Eugene Lloyd and Henderson are the programmeDirectors for the new curriculum
  • It was initially suggested that the meetings take place on a monthly basis and then the students can decide how frequently they want them, as it is vital the meetings occur at a time to suit everyone
  • EB: Will there be other representation besides us [galenicals committee] on the focus group?
  • CdS: Yes year reps will be there
  • EB: I find that students are unaware of when these changes coming into effect
  • CdS: Year reps will be able to feed this back, as it is a part of their role
  • AS: The faculty want student input because they have the bare bones, so they require more direction on how to implement the curriculum
  • LN: I was on the student choice sub panel and I brought issues raised on the panel here – with regards to electives
  • LN: I also invited people to the focus group, we attended and said we didn’t want the changes to the electives to occur andthey have gone ahead anyway, which is disappointing
  • AS: This has to do with the national change in the point at which we are registered, since we are qualified after 5th year the electives have to be moved back
  • LN: The registration issue was never raisedin the student choice sub panel or in the focus group
  • EB: I heard that they are getting rid of graduate entry because qualifying cannot be done in 4 years
  • JC: Nothing about the change in registration was raised in my focus group either…
  • CdS: Essentially, the curriculum must undergo this change so that medical students are ready to be doctors after their 5th year
  • JM: So they’re effectively condensing a 5 year course to 4 years so 5th year is now almost an F1 year...
  • CdS: yes they have streamlined things so that students are ready for F1 at the end of study
  • ES: 4th year is worth 50% of ranking at the moment, so when the changes go ahead will 4th year now include finals and affect ranking to an even great degreee?
  • CdS: As of now, we are unsure how it will affect ranking, we will send out the documentation again which explains the changes more clearly
  • EB: They’ve published it, but it has not been communicated well to students
  • CdS: Not true…because changes have been going on for 2 years now, the medical school always mentions it in their newsletters. We [Galenicals] have also sent out multiple emails and included the link in our weekly newsletter. Eugene and John are coming to all the CSD in order to have student input now that the ball is rolling
  • LN: Yes but now it has been settled, will student input make a difference?
  • CdS: It hasn’t been settled because they are asking for student input in these forums and focus groups. To be fair to the faculty, they have been trying to draw students in and advertise to really try and get student input; but people are reluctant to get involved.
  • ES: How can I direct people to information on the curriculum?
  • CdS: It’s on mammoth, we could encourage the faculty to publicise it even more and send out more emails etc. I could also write out to students. It is really important that if students feel strongly about somethingthey can communicate this to the faculty
  • JC: sometimes students just automatically rally against changes the faculty want to make because they fall into default thinking that faculty want to make their life harder
  • Fresher’s Booklet
  • CdS: SB and I worked very hard on it, I can forward it to everyone so that we all see the finished product.
  • SB: fresher’s booklet is also available on the website.

3. Vice President – Amy Samson

  • Medic Fresh
  • Thanks to everyone for making this event a success
  • General update
  • Mums & Dads
  • Now all 1st and 2nd years know who their mum/dad or child(ren) are, they will have a revised spread-sheet
  • Course Reps
  • In terms of feedback – less relevant preclinically but if you do find any issues, concerns useful to know and direct them to us. There is a meeting with David Morgan soon to encourage students to come forward with queries

4. Vice President – Andrew Armson

  • General update
  • We want to aim to improve the quality of handover. This should be something we are all thinking about, keep your handover documents updated and add anything new that you do so it eases the transition for your successor(s)
  • Course reps have been elected
  • Elective & Foundation Year event
  • AA: I have sent emails to clinical years asking for their opinion on a separate or combined event
  • AA: There is overlap so it’s likely it will be combined
  • SSC
  • The year 3 eSSC is moving towards a more placement based approach and less projectbased. The new lead [Kevin jones] is really on top of things
  • AA: Thankfully, the new year 3 have never experienced clinical eSSCs before so they should adapt with minimal difficulty, but for year 4 this willbe a change so need to update students
  • Currently, there is no firm planning for what happens if you fail the eSSC in 4th year. How do you resit? There is talk of taking a portion of time out of the elective or slotting it into 5th year somewhere else, but no firm decisions have been made
  • If you fail any unit, there is an opportunity to take revision over SSC and do a reduced project which is capped at 50% or revise over normal SSC and retain the potential to achieve 100%
  • 4th year eSSc will be part of grad ranking from 16/17

5. Conference Update

  • CdS: Who is not coming to the conference? Jags only.
  • £35, pays for dinner and breakfast next day
  • All required to get involved in the day and all the activities.
  • Hosting – we have upgraded dinner to a bigger room – so room for more people, therefore we also have more accommodation issues (LN is looking into halls)
  • LN: An international vet event is also taking place on the weekend of the conference, so all the hostels are booked solid
  • CdS: how many, max can people host?
  • AA/AS: 10, max 12
  • OK: 9
  • JB: 3
  • AM: 4 (only girls)
  • JC: 4 or 5 only girls (though not coming out)
  • EB: 6
  • TL: 0 or 4
  • AP: TL to confirm how many he can host
  • JM: 0 or 5
  • AP: JMto confirm how many she can host
  • ES: 10
  • AH: 10
  • LN: 3
  • SB: 0
  • TC: 10 or 15
  • CB/CdS: 15
  • TC: how many people have we potentially housed out?
  • CdS: 57

6. SSLC

  • CdS: SSLC dates
  • Preclinical (cot compulsory):
  • 24th 5.15 – 7.15 senate house
  • 2ndFeb. same time and place
  • Preclinical SSLC is mandatory for OK, JB and SB
  • Clinical:
  • Nov 11
  • Feb 3
  • April 27

7.Updates from committee members

  • Secretary
  • SYMPA (mailing list programme) kind of fixed
  • Sub-societies more organised
  • Treasurer
  • TC: DHB – sum of money for the DHB went missing 6/7 years ago.
  • TC: Got in contact with Tim Godfrey (Last secretary for the DHB), who is the signatory to the account the funds are located in. He is unwilling to give it to the medical school
  • AP: AM to email Jane Sansom
  • Careers
  • CB: Careers fair is on the 27th Feb
  • JM: apologies in advance
  • CB: want it to be a team effort
  • CB: next meeting, discuss a sub group –
  • AP: AM to include on the agenda for the next meeting
  • CB: Planning to incorporate a talk on alternative careers to medicine,
  • CB: It needs to be a good event, big and successful with involvement of sponsors
  • CdS: Teamwork will be important. It is a big event so we need to draw in everyone. Sponsors were pulling out because their expectations were not met in previous years in terms of turn out
  • CDB: In terms of organising day just the sub group will be involved.
  • AP: CB will contact AM to put something innewsletter
  • Charities
  • LN: With regard to the charities for bar crawl. I want to compare the list of charities I have with the list the president and Anjie have as there seems to be some discrepancies
  • CdS: Makes more sense to support our charities affiliated to us. Last year Chinedu chose, which doesn’t make sense at all. It’s more logical for LN to make that decision
  • LN: Ents also need to know who the charities are, to plan the event
  • CdS: We need permits from the council for the buckets
  • LN: I am in the process of organising an event for presidents of each of the affiliated charities in order to encourage incorporated events
  • Sports
  • TL: We have organised varsirty with Cardiff
  • TL: We have sorted dates for thesports club dinner
  • NON: we would like rugby and women’s rugby. Oxford emailed and Southampton seem keen
  • Sub groups have been put together with the social secretaries
  • JM: We are keen to host a sports ball/awards night
  • TL: We have made a deal with anytime fitness, which undercuts the university gym
  • TL: We met with the university gym for 1.5 hours and they were incredibly unhelpful
  • TL: We are going to setup an online shop…more to come on this
  • JM: We are planning to host more sports socials, not big events just mid-week
  • TL: Bunker have said they will treat us as a sports club
  • OK: mid week isn’t very convenient, because of early starts and lectures
  • TL: It is difficult to do weekends because that is when clubs are busiest. The Richmond is willing to shut down during the week for us
  • CdS: I am happy to print banners for future events – Galenicals sports banners
  • Music
  • EB: Lots of people have signed up for the taster session, scheduled for next week
  • EB: I also plan to organise an open mic night
  • Galneicals music are to sing at the thanksgiving cadaver night
  • EB: Christmas carol evening on 12th Dec time tbc.
  • EB: Also organising exchanges with Birmingham and Cardiff and doing some joint events with the vets
  • We are also signing Christmas carols to raise money for Ronal Macdonald house
  • Ents
  • Bar crawl routes sorted – 6pm Brass pig
  • Tickets £5
  • Lounge – gold cards for committee
  • Mystery tour in Jan? – Next meeting discuss
  • Vodka revs want to set up sponsor deal
  • ES: VR have society cards, want to give us 100 cards which include drinks and meal deal. Explained to her that is not enough cards because we are such a big society
  • We could not negotiate another sponsorship
  • AH: Christmas party 2nd December at Vodka Revs
  • AH: medics wine tasting keep asking ents for money
  • CdS: I will liaise with wine tasting
  • ES: we also want to host medics take me out. We thought that CLIC could be allowed to have charity buckets (Feb 5th)
  • International
  • Absent
  • Alumni
  • JB: Organising an event on the 5th – hopeto have the Christmas alumni – 60 people? Charging around the £30 mark since the venue is free therefore we can make a reasonable amount back
  • JB: I have been liaising with the union and we most likely will get the 5th unless something else pops up that takes priority
  • JB: If it does go ahead we will start organising guest speakers and put it in newsletter
  • JB: If the December date falls through it will rescheduled to February
  • Shows
  • The vagina monologue has delegated to a sub team to organise
  • PCR is in the writing stage
  • Clinical review should also start planning soon
  • CLIC – scheduled for the 5th of March 28th. The dress rehearsal is sometime in February
  • Webmaster
  • SB: Fresher’s booklet was a success – it can be found on thefirst year section of website if you want to read it
  • SB: The membership cards have come out well
  • SB: I am looking at rejigging and cleaning up learning resources

8. Sub-societies