3-3-10 TS 322495 notes from call with Janet
Dave: Janet is not afraid to go out and speak up. I asked her to give us an update on her experiences and how she has dealt with some situations so we can learn from that; we need to educate ourselves, because we’ve been indoctrinated, not educated. Janet, would you talk about what you’ve been doing and how you’ve been dealing with the corporate entity we are all dealing with.
Janet: the last week of January I was trying to get a medallion signature on a bond so that I could try to collateralize it. I set up an appointment for a week later with a local bank for the lady who did the medallion seals, and how much her signature could back on that seal’ her limit was $250K. I scheduled with her to get some seals on some bonds. My sureties, brother and sister in law, got there early. The bank had lined up the secret service to detain all of us because they thought we were trying to defraud them because they did not think it was possible that a private individual could issue their own bonds, even though I offered all the laws to them.
The bank had assured me there was no problem and I stepped into an ambush and my brother and sister in law called from the bank and said they were there with the secret service and they needed me to come over. Bring proof of what we are doing. My brother and sister in law were there under threat, duress and coercion at the bank (by the Secret Service) and threatened they could have come to their home, knocked down the door, stormed the place and taken anything they wanted. And they would have no recourse. Everyone at the bank was there as witnesses. The bank said there would be no repercussion.
By the time I got there the bank had already closed the account of my brother and sister-in-law and they had banked there for 2.5 years. They had done that the day before and had not waited for any resolution. They made the assumption we were committing unlawful, illegal acts and they made sure they were going to exact punishment whether it was real or not, because attorneys know everything. I called Tim and asked him what I should take and he said my memorandum in law He said if I had my secured party creditor documents I’d sent to Geithner. When I got there the bank people had been dismissed and my brother and sister in law were there with the secret service. I got traded for them, because they really just wanted me.
When I first sat down they said they’d heard about me and bonded promissory notes were giving people problems, as were my maritime liens. Now I’d come across their radar with these bonds wanting to get a gold medallion seal. They said they were going to possible charge me with 18 USC 474, they are calling it counterfeiting. I’m not counterfeiting anything because I am the maker and creator. They said they were going to look into 1341 mail fraud and I said I wasn’t committing mail fraud. I didn’t mail anything to the bank, we had come in of our own volition. We proceeded to have a nice talk, he was a very nice man.
10:22: the memorandum of law is about 14 pages and gives the laws back from the 1930’s to the present, under the 12 USC regarding private banking. I took my financial package. My brother and sister in law left and they were upset and scared. They felt they had been tried and convicted by the bank and the secret service guys. So I sat down and had a quiet conversation with the secret service guy, and I told him he had me there under threat, duress and coercion and he had no lawful reason for being there and if he did he had something ready to hand me to take me away.
I told him he must not be very well educated on this or he wouldn’t be here and he’d tell the bankers just to go ahead and give us our signatures, that we were perfectly within the law. So I said that obviously he was not well educated on that. He informed that two days earlier they had a meeting because of the executive memo that had come down from the current administration to go after anyone associated with the American sovereign party.
15:14: I said I didn’t know what that group was and I wasn’t a member of any party called that, but I am American, I am sovereign, by rights of the constitution, the Bill of Rights, and by my contract with the US treasury, I am not the debtor that they claimed I was. He said he didn’t know what I was talking about and I said there was a real man secured party creditor, American, and then there’s the debtor created by the corporation that you work for. He said, “I don’t work for a corporation,” and I said, but you do, you work for the government which is a US corporation and is not the government; not the one you work for. He said that’s what we were having our meeting about was you people that have this far out right wing idea of what’s going on with our government.
I said, when you are done here you are going to have an awakening and it’s not going to be pleasant, and you are going to be wondering which side you are working for. So, let’s go on and I’ll show you the laws; I know what you are trying to get me/us on but those were put in place to go after the mortgage brokers that were taking our promissory notes, hypothecating them 10 to 40 times and then making duplicate copies and hypothecating those 10 to 40 times. I got a mortgage the day I bought a house and that mortgage note (the debt) was sold to China on a trading platform. They are all making duplicate copies and selling those on multiple trading platforms. The Chinese got wind of it and that’s why they were here last year auditing.
They put the code into place to go after mortgage brokers for not only cheating government but they were ripping off the American people of their true wealth and ripping off the rest of the world and hurting the rest of the world economy. You created that code and now you are turning on real Americans and I’m here to educate you on why you can’t use that against me, because I’m more lawful than what you are doing here today and what the banks’ done.
I’m paraphrasing, but these are the same thoughts on how the conversation progressed. He said he felt that he was doing the right thing, and he really wasn’t. Janet said you really aren’t, we’re not done yet, and I’m to go through all the laws with you. There are several pages here and I know what little something you have there, but I’m going to show you what I’ve got here. You will find out you are at a very distinct disadvantage because your knowledge is minimal compared to mine. He wanted to know where I learned all this and I just answered that the internet was an amazing thing and you know those old-fashioned things called law libraries and libraries? Those are amazing, plus there’s Barnes and Noble, used book stores. You would be stunned….there are all kinds of people you can find all over the world who are interested in this kind of knowledge.
Call me silly, but this is available to everybody. The knowledge and wisdom is out there.
We went through information and I showed him about money and that there is no real money since they took the gold and silver away from us. He said, yes he was aware of the idea that we should never have come off the gold standard. I said there’s a reason for that and we’ve been living with those problems for a long time since that happened. Now we just have credit and every thing is a credit, a promise to pay, and we’ve been in a bankruptcy for a very long time.
He said he didn’t understand that and I said that we are under a bankruptcy so everything is debt. He said how is it backed? I said you don’t think the gold and silver taken away from the American people just vanished? It’s been held for safety and is being used as investments for individuals who are part of the US corporation. That’s where our real wealth is and that’s why countries are willing to buy our debt, because we have real wealth to back it up. The American people do, and they have sat idly and let these individuals take control of it and use it for their purposes.
I said when I am done here you are going to know this is all real and all this information is available to you and you just have to know where to find it. We proceeded with the conversation and all the private banking laws that said I could do private, individual and be my own bank, create my own notes and bonds and securities if I have done the right contract to take charge of my account and take control of it. So I went through the documents that I had, my memorandum of law, my security agreement, my note and demand, my property list, my UCC filings, and the birth certificate bond.
He said our birth certificates aren’t bonded, and I said, oh but they are. And our there are public and private sides to our social security accounts. The public side is with the dashes and the private side number has no dashes. And then there’s a number on the back of you social security card that corresponds to a dollar bill, a federal reserve note that floats out there. If you look at the number on the back of your social security card that is your DTC account number that ties to a federal reserve bank that your account is handled through and actually got out his social security card and looked at it because he had never notice that number before.
He said that’s a tracking number; I said you can call it that, but I know that it’s an account number tied to a federal reserve account and that letter on the back in front of the numbers matches one of the 12 banks on the list. The last 8 digits, just put a 0 in front and that’s your account number just like those checking accounts. I explained the difference of the debtor being on the left side and why they even have you sign on the left side, because you are giving your creditor signature and giving them full power to take control of your debtor account so they can extract funds, credit from it and do whatever they are going to do.
He said it all sounds good in theory but there’s nothing to back it up. I said nothing that you know of yet, but when you go back and research this again, you are going to have an awakening and you are not going to come back and do anything or say anything because you are going to know that I am so far within the law that if you touch me there will be something that you are personally liable for, because you are an employee of a US corporation.
He said, you keep saying that. If I’m an employee, then you are just going to sue me and I’ll have a lawsuit against me. And he laughed. I said actually no. I will file a negative averment against you which is an international document under sworn affidavit. I will file that information against you personally and send that to the UPU under all the appropriate postage of the United States Post Office, which was, by the way, created even before our constitution was signed so that countries would be able to do business with each other by private contract and it could be secured, protected with honor, integrity and ethics. That’s how countries do business, even today, under treaties and obligations. This is done under constitution and contract to the UPU.
And then what I will do is that once you continue to dishonor me, I will ask the UPU to intervene with INTERPOL so they can come and talk to you about your dishonor. As you know there has been and executive giving INTERPOL carte blanche to any individual in this country doing anything in international commerce that was causing fraud. Because all of this will be mailed to you under registered postage you would have been, or any entities representing you, would have been sending me back stuff with metered postage and you would be committing mail fraud. Right there is where INTERPOL will be coming to get you; just on simple mail fraud. As you know that carries 10 years in prison and a minimum fine, I can’t remember, $10K? He said I don’t know, and I answered, yes you do that’s what you are trying to get me on.
But it’s 10 years of prison and you know it. That’s where I’m operating from, is from a private banker, in real law, not color of law, as an American sovereign, not of a member of any party for you to be able to go after. I am my own people and I’m the executive trustee of my all caps name trust account known as the ALL CAPS NAME. I could see the light going on and he became less threatening and more inquisitive because this made sense to him.
I said that federal reserve notes (FRNs) have public and private debts and it can be used for public and private. If you know I am here on the public, then where is the private side. He said, well, the treasury department. I said, exactly. That’s where my contacts come in. I have all the appropriate contracts to operate and control my private account and not just give it over to bureaucrats to manage it and access it without my consent. Now that I can do that, then this bank would be helping me execute.
He asked me why I didn’t just do my own. I answered because there is a public and a private side to this note and I can’t be both. I can only operate on one side or the other. So, by issuing these bonds, the indemnity bond to get the seal on, I’m operating on the private side to execute the bond in the public side. So I was well within the law. He looked at the birth certificate and he said, you’ve really laid a big chunk of money out here for yourself. I said that American people are quite wealthy and I’m going to take charge of what I believe I can handle.
He said, your birth certificate is not a bank account, and I said, oh, but it is. You need to check yours; if you are born in Alabama it probably won’t have that on there, because mine didn’t have it on there. But if you are from Calif, Ore, Wash, Indiana, Missouri and a lot of states issue the birth certificates on bond paper and in the lower left corner it’ll say some banknote company, like American Bank Note Company, Midwest Bank Note Company, there are only about 6 throughout the country. The others have been bought up. the oldest is the American Bank Note Company and that has been in business since 1795 or even before that. But it’s at least 1795.