Linda Hill: NKOS intro

Digital libraries focused on collections

Reference works a superset of gazetteers

Geographic place: name, type, footprint: no shared typing schemes

Distributed search vs. aggregation

(Someone) asked about ranking places with same name, e.g. Paris, France, is most important; can be seen as prior probability

Goal of UCSB is document->footprint, not just name->location

ECAI not building gazetteer, but looking at specifying needs of cultural community

Content standards, feature type thesaurus, best practice guidelines

Relationship types should be standardized

http://www.alexandria.ucsb.edu/gazetteer/protocol

http://www.alexandria.ucsb.edu/thesaurus/protocol

What about selecting default relationships, e.g. administratively part of or spatially part of?

Should this mapping be in server or client?

Should thesaurus protocol allow multiple relation types?

Yes!

Filter encoding in; XML out

Use of XLink to reduce redundancy?

http://www.giub.uni-bonn.de/gisfe/

How to unify ADL and OpenGIS approaches?

Difference between web gazetteer service and web feature service?

NKOS:

Standards phrased in terms more relevant to non-lexicographers

Registry for DC Subject schemes

Danger of NISO thesaurus standard

Suggested that British standards bodies get coordinated

Academia Sinica:

Name authority, etymology, history, etc.

http://www.sinica.tw/~gaz…

geotools open source visualization toolkit

http://www.gbhgis.org

http://www.geotools.org

Microsoft Knowledge Network Group

GNIS names often don’t exist

http://atlas,gc.ca

Cliff Lynch’s response:

Concessive clause: not expert, etc.

Reaction to things he didn’t hear

Nature of gaz.:

Minimalist view: nuisance to real geography, unfortunate effect of language (early-mid 1990s)

Middle view: not just geometric inclusion but more conceptual (polit., legal) space

Creep to skeleton of all knowledge

Services should not be encyclopedias

Not just “:find a place”. More complex structuring for DLs: history, culture, etc.

Nasty engineering problems: persistent Ids when referencing texts

Distrubed gaz. Issues: scoping, provenance, versioning

Peter Buneman of Penn on data provenance

Issue of gaz scoping: aspiration to reconstruct the past, e.g. architecture

Do we want all Main Streets in our gazetteers?

Language of place names?

Spoken place names

Concern about combining update with retrieval

We need more agreement in order to update than to retrieve

How much context to carry with query

Cf. Experience of Z39.50

Moving elaborate semantics can be tricky

e.g. speed in implementation vs. usefulness

Standards issues:

ADL vs. ISO

Supersession of theoretic standards by tinkering

Standards vs. services

Who will put up data people want with these standards?

Killer app will define standard

No discussion of how to make case for this stuff

Simple visualization of documents is mere party trick

Geography a way of finding associated concepts and doing query expansion

Proposals for extra subject headings

How to improve scholarship in demonstrable ways?

Data quality presentation was intriguing:

NSDL offers opportunity for local gazetteers driven by education

Discussion:

Delaware has DataMill. People can input info. State gov and univ are involved under USGS

USGS rules for places vs. popular names

Scope restrictions due to Homeland Security?

Signposts down in Britain, Soviet and Franco-era maps

Power, water, infrastructure maps

Locations of endangered species

Restrictions w/o rational threat assessment

Archaeologists may intentionally fuzz data

Related to privacy problems with public record data

Feature types are key for connecting geographic query to broader IR

We shouldn’t develop thesauri lightly

And we can have multiple feature schemes

Different schemes may break down farther. Go from leaf in general thesaurus to more specialized thesaurus

Comparison to DC

Focus on definitions for relationships; faceting

But combining different thesauri is hard

Even ADL may to too complex

Lex Berman wants only 10 basic feature types

Scoping problem: Categories of British admin units only applies to Britain

Are administrative units too Western?

Commercial uses?

ESRI is providing place finder for free up to 5000 hits a day.

Distinction between place names and addresses: geoparsing vs. geocoding

Linda:How does georeferenced info fit into CNI program lines?

Cliff: Increasing interest in structured reference resources. As scholars produced more reference works, we need structure